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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    Number 1, it was never about Whyte, who is a C fighter Wilder would dispatch in 4 rounds or less.

    What it WAS about is being offered only 4 million when Martin got 7 million and Wlad (with no belt) got 8 million. That's just disrespectful and I don't know many champs who would allow themselves to be treated that way when lesser guys got more.
    What the heck are you smoking mate?

    Martin and Wlad fought AJ, not Dillian Whyte!

    Wilder was offered $4million, plus the entire US income, to defend his title against Whyte. How is offering him at least double his highest ever purse disrespectful?

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    • kafkod
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      #32
      Originally posted by 1hourRun
      Just remember the drug epidemic that the WBC was facing with their HW title : Something had to be done to ensure that Wilder would defend against his mando -- remember all the opponents that got popped and thereby cancelling fights.

      Basically the WBC had a contract with Dominic Breazeale to face Stiverne Bermane, remember Bermane was putting on his mando status on the line like Alexander Pedvetkin did against David Price a few months ago...Then Ortiz got popped for a banned substance bumping Bermane to mainevent vs. Wilder part II -- that leaves Breazeale and the WBC with a problem -- Sauliman I imagine couldn't believe that ANOTHER fighter got popped in Luis Ortiz AGAIN after Alexander : logically since the Bermane fight was a shot at Deontay they went ahead and offered Molina a eliminator and have another mandatory ready.

      Further Dillian Shyte and Eddie Hearn low-balled Breazeale before all this, they could offered him good money like they did with Parker and it would of been a final eliminator, but its funny that they have the funds for PPV vs. Parker that is not even a eliminator!
      Maybe you don't know this, or maybe you do and are trying to air brush it ... but part of Dillian's beef with the WBC over this is that they never told Eddie Hearn that Breazeale's next fight would be a final eliminator, even though he explicitly asked them about it.

      If Hearn had known that, he would have offered Breazeale more money and staged Whyte/Breazeale as a main event, like Whyte/Parker, instead of trying to put it on AJ's undercard.

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      • Raggamuffin
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        #33
        And Whyte is so ****en clueless dancing around for Hearn that I have no clue what he means when he says karma lmao. Wilder didn't get a unification fight with the scared stiff coward. Is he equating that to trying to back door his way into getting a title shot? Lmfao. Anytime you see the same old posters day in and day out have to defend the coward Joshua then you know that they their people who read the articles and blog on Boxingscene...and have P.R reps here trying to smooth over their lies and cowardice and switch the attention to Joshua.

        You guys know a long time ago I called Josha a coward. You want to know the reason why? I can detect unsureness. I detected it quick with this shivering coward. With Floyd Pac it was Pac asking for a cut off date. With Canelo it was wanting to make money and not take the risk against GG at the time. With Joshua it's falling off the US radar and never being seen again. Why take that chance. Wilder doesn't need Joshua. Joshua needs Wilder.

        Why Rag, why does Joshua need Wilder.

        Because Wilder has shown the world who is the coward. Those overseas know Hearn and he makes them some money and im talking about he has exclusive rights as to where they want the fight to be seen. They have this and that. None in the US huh, lmao. The world saw Tyson fight. Thenworld saw Tyson get his ass kicked too. That's us, that's the US. We've won and lost big fights all around the world. This ****en coward is scared to fight in the US and at home ****en coward.

        But now these exclusive rights people are tired of seeing these **** performances...not reallyntired because they do make some money lmao......and are asking why don't you fight Wilder?

        And Hearn keeps coming up with excuse after excuse and the world knows it. Wilder won't take your bull**** offers anymore. It's either 40-50 percent or no fight. Good for Wilder. They're amateurs at making big fights because their history shows that Lennox only won big fights, and he had to do it in the US. Who fought and won big fights and super fights in the U.K against a top US fighter in the U.K. and did it time and time again? Nobody. Their boxing history is why they're careful with Joshua.

        Lennox is tired of it and the world is too.

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          #34
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Maybe you don't know this, or maybe you do and are trying to air brush it ... but part of Dillian's beef with the WBC over this is that they never told Eddie Hearn that Breazeale's next fight would be a final eliminator, even though he explicitly asked them about it.

          If Hearn had known that, he would have offered Breazeale more money and staged Whyte/Breazeale as a main event, like Whyte/Parker, instead of trying to put it on AJ's undercard.
          Obviously the unforeseen circumstances changed all this didn't it? Pedvetkin was cleared for Meldonium he had a right to participate for the WBC HW title after his team cleared him ( sorry but its policy) -- who would of thought Alexander would get popped for steroids after he was given a break and thereby causing a domino-effect? -- things changed suddenly to save the card for Wilder vs. Ortiz.

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            #35
            Originally posted by kafkod
            What the heck are you smoking mate?

            Martin and Wlad fought AJ, not Dillian Whyte!

            Wilder was offered $4million, plus the entire US income, to defend his title against Whyte. How is offering him at least double his highest ever purse disrespectful?
            Martin was a beltholder Matchroom needed to come to Britain.
            Martin was offered 7 million.

            Wlad was a name Matchroom needed to come to Britain.
            Wlad was offered 8 million.

            If Matchroom wanted the longest reigning current beltholder to come to Britain all they had to do is pay that beltholder an amount consistent with what they paid others they wanted to come over.

            They didn't.

            Instead, they lowballed him. A Wilder vs Whyte fight was easily stadium worthy the way Brits show up for fights. It may not have done 70,000 like AJ, but I think a gate of 50,000 and a million Skybox PPVs was entirely possible. Add those numbers up and you can start to understand why Wilder- and anyone who isnt an AJ fanboy- called it disrespectful.

            Let's plug in numbers.

            50,000 probably means at least 5 million at the gate.

            One million PPV buys nets 9 million after the cable companies take theirs.

            That's 14 million without even counting US TV rights, sponsorships, etc.

            If he pays Wilder 4 million and Whyte 2 million, that leaves 8 million.

            Guess who gets that? Are you figuring it out yet?

            Look, it's OK if you like AJ.

            I do too.

            But, let's not get so carried away with fandom that we totally ignore the truth.

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            • lion33lit
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              #36
              Delusional Whyte is still in Delusionville not realizing Hearn threw him out there like a piece of contaminated yellow meat to keep Wilders attention diverted from thrashing his highly protected capital android investment - for the 20 bucks a month dazn crap. Whyte was the Whyte pawn on the chess board and still he doesnt have a clue........Hearn strikes again: The Master Puppeteer.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                yeah that makes a lot of sense!

                karma getting wilder cause he dismissed whyte to chase Joshua! so its karma that Joshua ducked him! karma that wilder didn't care about the whyte fight but pursued a much bigger and tougher fight!

                I guess these brits have a different version of what "karma" means over there

                hmmmm pursue fight with some guy that just fought lucas browne? or pursue a mega fight with Joshua? tough choice! but hahah karma got that fool wilder because he exposed a ducker in the "world champ"!!!

                friggn weirdos
                Problem with this statement is that Wilder didn’t duck Whyte to fight Joshua, he ducked him and is now going to fight Breazeale! That’s not a great fight, but much safer. That’s the way these heavies play it, safe fights and keep talking about the dangerous fights. Whyte seems like he’s willing to fight anyone, got to give him credit

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                • kafkod
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun
                  Obviously the unforeseen circumstances changed all this didn't it? Pedvetkin was cleared for Meldonium he had a right to participate for the WBC HW title after his team cleared him ( sorry but its policy) -- who would of thought Alexander would get popped for steroids after he was given a break and thereby causing a domino-effect? -- things changed suddenly to save the card for Wilder vs. Ortiz.
                  That doesn't explain why the WBC had to make Breazeale vs Molina a final eliminator.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    That doesn't explain why the WBC had to make Breazeale vs Molina a final eliminator.
                    Mauricio Sulaiman explained it, they had a contract with Dominic Breazeale ; the WBC was not going to sanction Molina without it being a final eliminator -- they would be taking Breazeales shot in Bermane away by then sanctioning Wilder vs. Stiverne, but Stiverne already had a contract signed to fight Breazeale ( its law binding )...how do you fix this? The way they decided by bringing in Molina.

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                    • candyman441
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                      #40
                      Wilder said he would fight Whyte if he beat Ortiz first or if Hearn made a guarantee of Joshua. Whtye scared to death of ortiz.

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