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  • Zodogg
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    #31
    [QUOTE=greeneye99;18912720]Canelo is the Biggest boxer Ppv star in the USA.. period..no one does a 1 million ppv since floyd is retired[/QUO
    If Canelo wasnt mexican he wouldnt even get close to a PPV event

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    • EnglishOxide
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      #32
      This fight ain't getting bigger.

      Wilder is an unlikable jackass with zero promotion, only Finkel and Showtime sponsored propaganda.

      Joshua is a respectable champion who doesn't like to trash talk to sell tickets and whore his name out there.

      I'm telling you man, the longer this goes on, the slice ain't getting bigger for Wilder.

      If Joshua destroys Povetkin, then perhaps fights Miller in NY in December? It wouldn't surprise me if he does bigger numbers than Wilder in a live prime time slot to truly cement his place as A side.

      Then Wilder is in a much weaker position in terms of demanding a split. Brezeale or an Ortiz rematch ain't gonna cut it. He's gonna need to take out Fury or Whyte if he wants people to take him seriously and for the fight to approach Mayweather/Canelo numbers.
      Last edited by EnglishOxide; 07-04-2018, 01:55 AM.

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      • P4Pdunny
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        #33
        I don't think this fight can get much bigger, and Povetkin is a roadblock at the moment. AJ can't look past that one.

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        • AussieStu
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          #34
          I was siding with Wilder after they called AJs bluff with the £50m offer.

          But I don’t think this is AJs doing.

          My take is that Hearn wants:

          (1) Home advantage as he doesn’t want AJ’s biggest fight to be his first overseas fight.
          (2) The biggest UK stadium available - Wembley at 90k to
          maximise tickets.
          (3) A big launch for DANZ, which is a £1Bn investment.

          He was hoping that would all happen in Sept but Canelo/GGG scuppered that from a US promotional point of view.

          Now that he can’t get his big Sept DANZ launch, he doesn’t care if he has to wait until April for those 3 thing to align.

          It’s not about ducking, purely business.

          Besides looking back at DW’s record, he was fighting someone called Marlon Hayes (23-10) in his 21st fight, while AJ was in his 2nd unification fight against a World Champ who was (24-0).

          Wilder might suddenly be in a rush to unify but AJ has been doing the donkey work gathering all the trinkets together in tougher fights (ie. VLAD and Parker). DWs only equivalent fight is Ortiz (although to be fair he did try to fight Povetkin).
          Last edited by AussieStu; 07-04-2018, 04:51 AM.

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          • Patsfan bri
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            #35
            Originally posted by EnglishOxide
            This fight ain't getting bigger.

            Wilder is an unlikable jackass with zero promotion, only Finkel and Showtime sponsored propaganda.

            Joshua is a respectable champion who doesn't like to trash talk to sell tickets and whore his name out there.

            I'm telling you man, the longer this goes on, the slice ain't getting bigger for Wilder.

            If Joshua destroys Povetkin, then perhaps fights Miller in NY in December? It wouldn't surprise me if he does bigger numbers than Wilder in a live prime time slot to truly cement his place as A side.

            Then Wilder is in a much weaker position in terms of demanding a split. Brezeale or an Ortiz rematch ain't gonna cut it. He's gonna need to take out Fury or Whyte if he wants people to take him seriously and for the fight to approach Mayweather/Canelo numbers.
            Joshua is a likeable guy who made a demand which was meet , he is is just not a man of his word that’s all. I mean who goes on social media post a video of themselves asking for a fee then the fee is met and doesn’t follow through?? I know I know you are going to tell me AJ is the A side well if he real wanted the fight the A side makes it happen just Floyd always did, like Canelo just did with GGG. How much less money you want wilder to make ? He is already agreed to a flat fee of 15 when there is a lot more money to be made . You know how many times you said the word if in your comments? If is a big word. If my Aunt had balls she would be my uncle. What if AJ struggles? What if wilder destroys Breazeale, then whyte?

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            • Bigg Rigg
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              #36
              This “let the fight build up” **** is annoying af

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              • Bigg Rigg
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                #37
                Bunch of bozos in the comments defending this bs too. Y’all the biggest reason boxing ain’t **** no more.

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                • EnglishOxide
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Patsfan bri
                  Joshua is a likeable guy who made a demand which was meet , he is is just not a man of his word that’s all. I mean who goes on social media post a video of themselves asking for a fee then the fee is met and doesn’t follow through?? I know I know you are going to tell me AJ is the A side well if he real wanted the fight the A side makes it happen just Floyd always did, like Canelo just did with GGG. How much less money you want wilder to make ? He is already agreed to a flat fee of 15 when there is a lot more money to be made . You know how many times you said the word if in your comments? If is a big word. If my Aunt had balls she would be my uncle. What if AJ struggles? What if wilder destroys Breazeale, then whyte?

                  Just answer me something.

                  If you said you would take $50m guaranteed from a pot you thought was impossible to be $100m.

                  But someone tells you that pot might actually reach $200m or $300m (theoretically) and they are still only offering you $50m or 50%...

                  Wouldn't you want to sit down and look at the numbers again? When those people have never come up with such numbers on their own and need YOUR signature to make it work?

                  Wouldn't you want to discuss terms?

                  ***** 'keeping your word' when there's millions of dollars in play.

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                  • Curtis2
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                    #39
                    keep it real

                    Originally posted by Jimmy gold
                    Oscar is speaking facts canelo a side facts anthony Joshua a side facts ggg b side facts wilder c or d side mega facts
                    Wilder KO's next opponent, whomever it is, Povetkin at 38 years old will KO AJ or go the distance for the decisive win!!

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                    • Scopedog
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                      #40
                      Claims that the fight needs time to marinate ring hollow. This fight has been building ever since Joshua took the IBF belt from Charles Martin and that only escalated when he beat Klitschko more than a year ago. The time for this fight should have been now, not in 2019 or 2020 or whatever.

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