Hearn won't be around long

[McNulty]

--- Ol' Man Hearn in the biz longer than you in yer diapers.

Called a dynasty holding the heavy cards with young Eddie signed to a billion buck broadcast deal.

Makes Haymon squirm under his rock in his Vegas bunker where nobody can ever see him.

Read all about it and weep for thee...

Actually, I was well out of diapers when Barry was an accountant. I was actually kicking ass as a half pint when he was promoting Snooker events, whatever the fùck that garbage is. Nice try kid, but no cigar!

Barry and Freddie. Even in the 80's I never even heard of Barry Hearn, actually didn't hear of him until a few years back. Doing a **** up job doe!

Mc- crackbaby strikes again_ what genius analysis you have there guy!

Dog, you don't even know how long Bernstein has been on the scene. 15 years ok kid, stop talking out of the side of your next and keep it moving.

[McNulty]

Disagree very strongly. Hearn is a brilliant promoter. Has a great TV deal with Sky. Has DAZN. He's the #1 promoter in the UK and the UK has become the most reliable market for boxing.

Hearn has handled AJ perfectly and that's not going to change.

Even if DAZN flops, which is a big if, Hearn's Sky deal will keep him a major player for a very long time.

You don't think the SKY deal had anything to do with the Hearn family name, especially Barry still being alive and controlling his marionette son from the rafters? If Freddie fails, Barry is right around the corner to save the day. That absolutley had massive influence on the SKY deal.

But without AJ, Freddy's got nobody really. Look at what he's done for Jacobs, absolutely nothing.

DAZN will fail, the name alone for a brand is a fail. Nobody even knows how to say it. Do we say D-A-Z-N or do we say DAZZ-N, or Daisy-N?

Pretty hard to screw up AJ. Freddy's doing the same thing every promoter has done in the UK since the dawn of man. Match him up against home cooked opposition and let it simmer. Hearn here had timing on his side a lot. The UK is in a bit of a bind, they're out of stars and here comes a muscular giant thats got some ability, the Brits are salivating for it before he even hit the pro ranks. There was a pretty big buzz with AJ in the Am's, even over here. Can't imagine over there.

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You don't think the SKY deal had anything to do with the Hearn family name, especially Barry still being alive and controlling his marionette son from the rafters?

Of course it did, but it doesn't change the fact that Matchroom is in a strong position with or without DAZN.

without AJ, Freddy's got nobody really. Look at what he's done for Jacobs, absolutely nothing.

Jacobs is American. Eddie having security in the UK via Sky has nothing to do with the fact that HBO boxing is dying and there's nobody interesting for Jacobs to fight until Canelo or GGG are willing to fight him.

DAZN will fail, the name alone for a brand is a fail. Nobody even knows how to say it. Do we say D-A-Z-N or do we say DAZZ-N, or Daisy-N?

I agree the name is horrible. But they pay. So I'm obviously going to be rooting for DAZN as long as they're paying me. They very well might fail and the name is atrocious. But they have powerful people behind them and a lot of money. Failure is not a certainty. It could be a big success. Time will tell.

[McNulty]

Of course it did, but it doesn't change the fact that Matchroom is in a strong position with or without DAZN.

Without DAZN, Hearn has one fighter.

Jacobs is American. Eddie having security in the UK via Sky has nothing to do with the fact that HBO boxing is dying and there's nobody interesting for Jacobs to fight until Canelo or GGG are willing to fight him.

So what? Hearn is promoting Jacobs and doing a terrible job. Look at how vocal he is with his golden egg, every single day he's singing to the media. Contract this, offer that, that's not how business works etc. But when it comes to Jacobs, Cricket County. He's not good dude lol.

I agree the name is horrible. But they pay. So I'm obviously going to be rooting for DAZN as long as they're paying me. They very well might fail and the name is atrocious. But they have powerful people behind them and a lot of money. Failure is not a certainty. It could be a big success. Time will tell.

My man, I don't believe a word of it. One minute your a writer, then you're a promoter, then you're working for DAZN but trashing the company name in an open forum. You don't even know how to say the company name either otherwise you would have more than likely put that in your reply. You have to see how hard you are to believe at this point. What could DAZN possibly be paying you for?

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Without DAZN, Hearn has one fighter.

One fighter anybody cares about in the US, but Hearn has a very solid roster of fighters UK fans care about. As long as Hearn has the exclusive on Sky, he has a huge advantage over Warren. You can't say Hearn has one fighter when in addition to AJ he has Khan, Brook, Bellew, Whyte, Smith, Quigg, Crolla, Burnett, etc. Give the guy his due. It's a strong roster.

So what? Hearn is promoting Jacobs and doing a terrible job. Look at how vocal he is with his golden egg, every single day he's singing to the media. Contract this, offer that, that's not how business works etc. But when it comes to Jacobs, Cricket County. He's not good dude lol.

Hearn convinced HBO to overpay for Jacobs. So he's already done his job. What else is there for him to do? Jacobs has nobody to fight. Canelo and GGG are fighting each other. Those are the opponents Jacobs jumped to HBO to get. Without those two, Jacobs has nothing. Not much Hearn can do about that.

My man, I don't believe a word of it. One minute your a writer, then you're a promoter, then you're working for DAZN but trashing the company name in an open forum. You don't even know how to say the company name either otherwise you would have more than likely put that in your reply. You have to see how hard you are to believe at this point. What could DAZN possibly be paying you for?

Hmmm, maybe things would be more believable if you knew how to read? I never said I work for DAZN. The fights I promote air on DAZN in some countries, which is why I was familiar with them before talks of them coming to the US (my US rights are already tied up, so I can't do business with DAZN here unfortunately).

I've worked as a writer and a promoter. What's hard to believe about that? The head of HBO boxing started as a writer...

[McNulty]

One fighter anybody cares about in the US, but Hearn has a very solid roster of fighters UK fans care about. As long as Hearn has the exclusive on Sky, he has a huge advantage over Warren. You can't say Hearn has one fighter when in addition to AJ he has Khan, Brook, Bellew, Whyte, Smith, Quigg, Crolla, Burnett, etc. Give the guy his due. It's a strong roster.

Bellew has one fight left and it's not going to be much of anything. Maybe an undercard affair. Brook is toast, nobody cares even in the UK about a quitter. The UK absolutely HATES Khan, nice try!

So he's got Whyte who he can't seem to MATCH with anybody.

Smith, Quigg, Crolla, Burnett: Who lol?

Hearn convinced HBO to overpay for Jacobs. So he's already done his job. What else is there for him to do? Jacobs has nobody to fight. Canelo and GGG are fighting each other. Those are the opponents Jacobs jumped to HBO to get. Without those two, Jacobs has nothing. Not much Hearn can do about that.

How do you know HBO overpaid?

You're a twit if you think GGG and Canelo are Jacobs only options. You're losing what little grip you have here man.

Charlo
Saunders
Andrade
Derevyanchenko
Murray
Lemieux
Spike
Quigly

Hell even a fight in AU against Mundine would be better than what Hearn has accomplished at this point.

Hmmm, maybe things would be more believable if you knew how to read? I never said I work for DAZN. The fights I promote air on DAZN in some countries, which is why I was familiar with them before talks of them coming to the US (my US rights are already tied up, so I can't do business with DAZN here unfortunately).

I've worked as a writer and a promoter. What's hard to believe about that? The head of HBO boxing started as a writer...

Learn to read, ok sure! You said this: So I'm obviously going to be rooting for DAZN as long as they're paying me.

AND

I replied.

If someone is paying you, you're working for them. Thats how word logic works hombre! If you wanted a differnet result, your word choice should have been different.

When I caught you the first time you said where did I say that? Instead of yea I do both. You didn't say that, you got concerned about where the leaking water was so you could keep afloat. Where did I say that? Yea, ok man! Learn to read doe!!!

[bluebeam]

Okay where do we begin...

1. You have no idea of who has signed and who hasn't. Anyone who has signed has obviously been locked into an NDA to neither confirm or deny until the launch. For all you know he could roll out 2 or 3 of your favourite fighters personally.

2. Nobody with a high profile? Define high profile currently in the US and what signifies that a fighter has it?

3. Al haymons didn't "get" Jacobs the GGG fight...the fight was always there. He lost.. and lost his regular world title too so he needed to be rebuilt . He faced arias.. and then a final eliminator in sulecki.

He gets paid more per fight than he did with Haymon. He still obviously has a fan base as he drew 800,000 + viewers on HBO and he is now.. mandatory in the WBA. Could fight derevyanchenko for the vacant IBF and is #1 in the WBO. But yeah... You're right... Hearns done nothing for him . Tit.

broner, both charlo's, mikey, wilder

that's 5 off the top of my head that turned hearn down. high profile fighters.

haymon was jacobs manager and adviser, the golovkin fight doesnt happen without the go ahead from haymon. no haymon fight happens without his go ahead.

jacobs is less talked about now than he was before he signed with hearn. jacobs was considered the 3rd best 160 last yr. now nobody talks about danny.

hearn made him the wba mandatory? big *****ing deal considering ggg is the wba champ and murata is the other wba champ, so is danny really the mandatory?

and jacobs vs another no name (dereavychencko) aint what jacobs signed up for. 3 no names in a row. when will eddie deliver a big fight for jacobs?

nobody who fights on us television is signing with hearn. just watch

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How do you know HBO overpaid?

Because they guaranteed him millions per fight and here you are talking about how ****ty the fights are. You don't consider that over paying?

You're a twit if you think GGG and Canelo are Jacobs only options. You're losing what little grip you have here man.

Charlo is with Haymon and isn't happening unless it's a mandatory. Saunders is with Warren and it isn't happening unless it's a mandatory. Nobody would care about the other fights. It's Canelo, GGG or bust for Jacobs and even when he was offered the Canelo fight, he was low balled and turned it down. So Jacobs will keep being overpaid fighting nobodies while he waits to hopefully get a shot at Canelo or GGG eventually.

Learn to read, ok sure! You said this: So I'm obviously going to be rooting for DAZN as long as they're paying me.

AND

I replied.

If someone is paying you, you're working for them. Thats how word logic works hombre! If you wanted a differnet result, your word choice should have been different.

I just bought a sandwich at the deli. I paid the cashier for the sandwich. Does the cashier work for me?

I don't work for DAZN. They license the rights to footage I own. They are my customer. I'm selling footage. They're buying footage. I don't work for them anymore than Walmart works for me when I buy a ladder.

[Manlikefemi]

Hearn doesn't have the clout or stable for the US market. He hasn't established himself enough for fighters to trust him with their careers on some unknown platform

Everyone knows Joshua would be huge with any other uk promoter

Hearn's like puffy daddy, all up in the video's

I don't even like Hearn. But if Frank Warren was Joshua's Promoter, he would be in the copperbox fighting for the British Title 25 Fights in. With Frank saying "he needs time to develop, he's young and raw"

[Manlikefemi]

That would be good for boxing if Dana White does throw his hat into the fight game. However, part of boxing mainstream decline is that fighter promoters don't want to work with each other anymore. If Eddie Hearn and Dana White can succeed in the states; The largest market in the world, then boxing has a chance of becoming a mainstream sport around the globe again.

As far as Dana offering Al Haymon's army twice the amount of money to come fight for him I just don't see it. By most accounts White has a reputation for being very frugal when it comes to paying his fighters.

However, the main obstacle to boxing's success globally and especially in the states is the decline of the American amateur boxing program. Back in the day America used to develop fighters frequently but not anymore. If boxing is to succeed again, then it must get back to developing and grooming young talent.

Your last paragraph; Why would Young Americans risk getting their heads broken every day in their gym for 1/10 of the money they'd earn from being a average NFL/NBA Player.

This is even before you get into all the dodgy promoters who wants a share, poor drug testing in Boxing and Boxing not being a mainstream sport as well as having slurred speech and being in a wheelchair from Age 50.