Deontay wilder ducked klitschko, but anthony joshua's a "coward"??? Lmao!!!

[BattlingNelson]

It's funny to see Finkel criticized for being honest while Hearn is praised for lying.

When Wilder won the title in 2015, Finkel wanted to wait until 2016 for him to fight Klitschko and was very up front about it. He didn't lie or make excuses.

Hearn chooses instead to pretend he wanted Wilder this year when he really didn't want him until next year.

And if you look at the results, you see why it's better to lie. Because everybody praises Hearn and believes everything he says even when he lies, while Finkel is raked over the coals for being honest.

Honesty doesn't pay in boxing.

Yeah Finkel was honest in saying that even though Wilder held the WBC strap he was not ready to face the champ. Can that be considered blatant and overt ducking?

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Yeah Finkel was honest in saying that even though Wilder held the WBC strap he was not ready to face the champ. Can that be considered blatant and overt ducking?

He wanted Wilder to have two quick defenses and then fight Wladimir the next year.

Wilder won his title from the #2 heavyweight in the world at the time.

AJ won his title from the #9 heavyweight in the world at the time.

Then AJ make two quick defenses and fought Wladimir the next year.

AJ did exactly what Finkel wanted Wilder to do. The difference is Finkel was honest about it and Hearn wasn't. So nobody is claiming AJ was ducking the top fighter while he took his two quick defenses to develop. The criticism is only aimed at Wilder because Finkel told the truth and Hearn lies.

Hearn wouldn't lie this much if it didn't work. The fans have taught Hearn that lying is the best course of action.

[BattlingNelson]

He wanted Wilder to have two quick defenses and then fight Wladimir the next year.

Wilder won his title from the #2 heavyweight in the world at the time.

AJ won his title from the #9 heavyweight in the world at the time.

Then AJ make two quick defenses and fought Wladimir the next year.

AJ did exactly what Finkel wanted Wilder to do. The difference is Finkel was honest about it and Hearn wasn't. So nobody is claiming AJ was ducking the top fighter while he took his two quick defenses to develop. The criticism is only aimed at Wilder because Finkel told the truth and Hearn lies.

Hearn wouldn't lie this much if it didn't work. The fans have taught Hearn that lying is the best course of action.

The question was whether you think Wilder blatantly and overtly ducked Klit considering the comments from Finkel? A simple yes or no should suffice.

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The question was whether you think Wilder blatantly and overtly ducked Klit considering the comments from Finkel? A simple yes or no should suffice.

Only if AJ blatantly and overtly ducked him too. Because Wilder & AJ were both put on the same path. Get in a couple quick defenses and then look for a big fight the next year. You call Wilder's path a duck because his manager was honest about the plan and you say nothing about AJ's path because his promoter was smart enough not to be honest.

[The plunger man]

finkel said wilder needed two quick defenses, which he went and scheduled. wladimir was already committed to jennings.

you talk down a fight when you knows its not the plan yet and you talk it up when it is. which is why finkel had wilder start hyping the fight after his two quick defenses.

they didnt expect klitschko to lose so fast. wilder vs klitschko in 2016 was finkel's plan.

You have an agenda to suit your own needs....in one sentence you say wilder needed to quick defences and scheduled them in and you cry like f@ck when hearn sends wilder a contrac to sign and because he didn't sign the fight will now get put back for 8 months.
You are a hypocrite and a clueless mug lol

[BattlingNelson]

Only if AJ blatantly and overtly ducked him too. Because Wilder & AJ were both put on the same path. Get in a couple quick defenses and then look for a big fight the next year. You call Wilder's path a duck because his manager was honest about the plan and you say nothing about AJ's path because his promoter was smart enough not to be honest.

Don't give me this runaround. The question could have been answered by you well before anyone spoke about a unification between AJ and Wilder.

So answer this: Do you think that Wilder blatantly and overtly ducked Klit considering the comments from Finkel?

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you cry like f@ck when hearn sends wilder a contrac to sign and because he didn't sign the fight will now get put back for 8 months.

That's not what happened. He didn't sign BECAUSE the fight wouldn't be until April 2019. He would have signed if the fight was going to be next. You have it backwards. Where are you getting your information from?

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So answer this: Do you think that Wilder blatantly and overtly ducked Klit considering the comments from Finkel?

No. Absolutely not. Because Klitschko already had another fight scheduled, so he wasn't even available. And he fought on another network, making the fight nearly impossible.

Finkel dreamed of making a massive in house Klitschko vs. Wilder fight where he controlled both sides. The fight would have happened in 2016 if Klitschko had beaten Fury.

You can't duck a guy that isn't even available. The two quick defenses Finkel talked about, Wilder fought those way before Klitschko even would have been available.

People try to rewrite history, but the truth is Wladimir lost his belts the same year Wilder won his. There was never an opportunity for them to fight. By the Fall of 2016, Wladimir would have been a TV free agent and Finkel could have made a massive Showtime PPV.

[BattlingNelson]

No. Absolutely not. Because Klitschko already had another fight scheduled, so he wasn't even available. And he fought on another network, making the fight nearly impossible.

That's not relevant! Wilder didn't want none regardless of networks scheduling etc.

Stop drinking that Wilder koolaid bro.

Was it a blatant and overt duck?

It sure sounds as a confession to me.

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That's not relevant! Wilder didn't want none regardless of networks scheduling etc.

Stop drinking that Wilder koolaid bro.

Was it a blatant and overt duck?

It sure sounds as a confession to me.

Has nothing to do with what Wilder wanted. What mattered is what Finkel wanted. Finkel wanted Wilder to make a couple quick defenses while Klitschko was unavailable anyway, and then start building towards a fight in 2016 when Klitschko would be able to leave HBO to fight Wilder on Showtime PPV. Fights of that magnitude take time to set up. Wladimir ended up losing that year, so it didn't matter.

But you can't blatantly and overtly duck a fighter who already has a fight scheduled! And fights on a competing network and isn't allowed to fight you! You're not making any sense.