Comments Thread For: Hearn: I'll Pay Wilder $5M to Fight Anyone He Wants Next in N.Y.

[Bronx2245]

Team Wilder wanted U.S. and Showtime PPV... Hearn wanted U.K. and DAZN...

Hearn could've had UK and DAZN, but he also offered a $15 million dollar flat-fee! He only did that to make sure the fight did NOT happen! He also offered a rematch ONLY IF JOSHUA LOST! He threw as many obstacles in the road as necessary to make sure this fight did not happen!

[robbyheartbaby]

Hearn ducking, treating Wilder like a b***, f*** you Hearn stop talking down to fighters, Deontay deserves a split, Hearn is f***ing this deal up.

[The Problem Child]

Hearn and Joshua are pathetic cowards. I hope Povetkin roids up worse than Clenelo and knocks Joshua out and ends his career.

[STREET CLEANER]

Hearn's plan all along. Give Wilder 5 million to avoid the fight and promote his DANZ venture.

Now all his fans still take what he says like gospel while he is laughing all the way to the bank

[NearHypnos]

"A guy with less money and no leverage is trying to make an offer to someone worth more than his offer..."

The A-side guy, is the guy who came up with the $50 million dollar figure! I totally understand Wilder is the B-side, but let's not pretend Wilder doesn't want this fight! Offering a flat-fee was a b*tch move!

Wilder said it’s not about the money. It doesn’t matter what THEY sayd. We shouldn’t take what the fighters themselves say at face value.

Obviously this for AJ is all about the money. Having control of where he fights, the judges and the referee is a good way to make sure he wins no matter how the fights go. Not saying AJ isn't a good fighter but he as the CHAMP should rise above this pettiness.

In an ideal, honor bound world with no promoters or people who stand to earn from this that would happen. The same could be said about Wilder. The main issue here is that one fighter is just such a vastly superior draw and money maker than the other.

Throughout boxing history, the cash cow has consistantly called the shots until someone beats them and claims that status. It’s not often you see such a discrepency in drawing power come to this. I mean that as the B side being so diva-esque.

One guy is the significantly larger draw with a win on the resume that may very well be superior to the (potential) win he’d have over Wilder.

Joshua has Wladimir on the resume. He has a signature win over a legend (albeit an old one) in what turned out to be a classic fight. Wilder isnt just the b side money wise, but resume wise.

Wilder needs to concede because he’s going to find that the world will keep moving with or without him.


It’s not about fairness it’s about reality. Dont hate the player, hate the game. Doesnt matter how much I like Wilder, I know that the fight isnt going to happen on his terms. Everyone does.

[j0zef]

I didn't realize he's still on that flat fee. Thought he moved on from that BS?

I'm guessing what Wilder agreed on last week wasn't a flat fee, and now Hearn is punishing Wilder for making them fight Povetkin.

[Fanofreason]

Hearn just blew his shot at signing any main US fighters over this.

Hearn truly is a jackazz.

He burnt his relationship with HBO Showtime and main stream US fighters in matter of 60 days.

For an App Deal that is not the amount he is stating it is.

[Scipio2009]

The uk has significantly less people and the ppv SOLD over what Wilder got on essentially free tv on a legitimately good fight that people wanted to see.

Yeah, he *can* build on it but no matter what he does, AJ will still be bigger and will still have first choosings of the good oponents. Lets be honest...Wilder isnt selling 400k ppv any time soon unless its vs Fury and even then thatd likely be Fury’s doing.

You think Wilder could draw 400k vs a can when even Floyd barely hit that in his “retirement” fight vs Berto?

400k is a decent number for an established superstar in a tune up or stay busy/mando fight. So unless Wilder beats Joshua, dont expect those numbers ever from the Wilder show. There just arent the names available to make that happen...not anytime soon.

Whether we want to admit it or not, Wilder needs Joshua to be where Joshua is at. Joshua is already up there.

There is no road for Wilder to catch up to AJ without fighting and beating him because AJ becomes an even bigger deal every time out no matter who he fights. Wilder is the one chasing. Lets make no mistake about it

Anthony Joshua has reached his ceiling for what he can expect to draw in the UK; 90000 people at Klitschko prices at Wembley and 1.5m-1.7m homes @£20 per home on Sky Box Office. The UK can divide that money how they do in the UK, but Joshua's max pie is basically $40m (plus what he can draw on TV in Germany/France, and what he can get for the matinee rights in the US; everything breaks his way and he maybe gets $45m-$50m).

Deontay Wilder isn't on $40m yet, but he's not on 0 either. Seilling that well in NYC and still drawing over well over 1 million homes against HBO and a UFC PPV isn't something to ignore. The public is finally ready for Wilder to launch as long as he keeps performing stellar against good fighters.

Folks will disregard it, but Wilder-Breazeale, depending on how they play it, is already a $4m-$6m fight (with CBS carrying SEC Football, you could easily pair Wilder fighting from wherever with a CBS date during a dead spot in the SEC Football schedule). Luis Ortiz comes back and looks good in his return fight and you should easily be able to draw 400k PPV homes for Wilder-Ortiz 2.

With 9 defenses in hand, Wilder flattening everyone put in front of him, Anthony Joshua making it clear to the world that he doesn't want any smoke, you sell the second Wilder PPV with a good opponent and Wilder taking his shot at being the 5th longest reigning heavyweight champion with his 10th defense of his championship.

2 PPV date points helps you start a trend, but even on just that, Wilder stands as a $15m fighter with still ton to grow, while Joshua is capped in Europe.

A longer and slower road, but Wilder is still sitting with the bazooka right hand that puts butts in the seats, in the market that tops out at $450m instead of $45m.

[Scipio2009]

Again, B side.


If a gross homeless lady offers you 50 bucks to f uck her behind a trashcan would you take it? Just because it’s 15 dollars more than what you get from going with the picks of the litter in a penthouse? Yeah...what a hard decision...just do it twice.

A guy with less money and no leverage is trying to make an offer to someone worth more than his offer...

If AJ was fighting for 2-3 mil up until now it’d be one thing... the guy just fought someone for like 30 mil, in a sold out stadium...in his country.


Aj doesnt need 50 mil from wilder because hes got it and can reject it but most importantly, CAN EARN IT without Wilder. Wilder DOESNT have that luxury or power. Huge difference.

Aj moving on goes to show you that Wilder either takes whats offered or nothing.


Im a HUGE wilder fan but hes got nothin to offer. 50 mil is a lot to Wilder...Not to Joshua anymore

It's not $50, though; it's $50m.

If I had already said that, for $1m, I'd **** any woman on the planet, and a homeless woman came up with the money and wanted to ****, I'd (after immediately trying to back out of the offer) make sure that I got every dollar of that beforehand, insist on having a condom on, make absolutely clear that it's only penis in ***** (no kissing, touching, licking etc), **** the **** out of her, leave, and not say anything to anyone about it.

You stand by your word, so that your word is actually worth something for the next conversation.

Beyond that, what self-respecting man is paying a penny for *****, when you're allegedly in a penthouse ****ing any woman that you want? A person in that position should have the ability to talk 8s/9s into coming up to the penthouse without being a john.

[Scipio2009]

Again, B side.


If a gross homeless lady offers you 50 bucks to f uck her behind a trashcan would you take it? Just because it’s 15 dollars more than what you get from going with the picks of the litter in a penthouse? Yeah...what a hard decision...just do it twice.

A guy with less money and no leverage is trying to make an offer to someone worth more than his offer...

If AJ was fighting for 2-3 mil up until now it’d be one thing... the guy just fought someone for like 30 mil, in a sold out stadium...in his country.


Aj doesnt need 50 mil from wilder because hes got it and can reject it but most importantly, CAN EARN IT without Wilder. Wilder DOESNT have that luxury or power. Huge difference.

Aj moving on goes to show you that Wilder either takes whats offered or nothing.


Im a HUGE wilder fan but hes got nothin to offer. 50 mil is a lot to Wilder...Not to Joshua anymore

Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko split an alleged $50m for their fight; Joshua and Povetkin will likely be splitting a pot less than that.

Still, Anthony Joshua is on the money, fighting anyone that he wants, in a soldout stadium in the UK with a pot of at least $35m against anyone.

The point that folks forget, though, is that Deontay Wilder was Anthony Joshua's only path to growing his pie beyond that basically hard $45m cap. No one is going to care if he fights Jarell Miller (and the US boxing press won't let him live down backing out of the Wilder fight), and Fury looked so terrible in his fight that I doubt the US will care about him much either.

As talented as he is, talk of Anthony Joshua being the first billion dollar basically ends without the Wilder fight, and that's pretty clear; settle into being a European star who fights on DAZN (for the few US fans who will pick up the platform for matinee boxing) and enjoy being the new Felix Sturm.