Comments Thread For: Hearn: I'll Pay Wilder $5M to Fight Anyone He Wants Next in N.Y.

[Manlikefemi]

Showtime had 6 fights to basically generate $500m in PPV revenue; the Guerrero fight brought in $60m, the Alvarez fight brought in $150m, the Maidana fights brought in about $120m, the Berto fight brought in $30m. Add that to the HD fee for those five fights, and you've already gotten about $410m of the $500m with a fight to go. Showtime's share of the Pacquiao fight plus their share of the HD fee gets the sixth fight in the deal to generate $250m, easily covering the obligation by at least $150m in PPV revenue (something like $75m after the outside parties are paid, but Showtime not only covered the debt, they also made a nice $115m for themselves, less the costs of producing everything for those 6 events).

Eddie Hearn spent months in the public sphere talking about how Anthony Joshua wasn't part of the DAZN deal. If you want to call him a liar, say so.

Lastly, I'll take that bet if you're laying it out there; an undisputed heavyweight championship fight between two English-speaking, big-punching heavyweights, regardless of the result if it was an exciting fight the first time, that the US audience will get to see in primetime, will do less than 400k PPV buys.

$100 says you're wrong

Your Maths didn't make sense. I highly doubt Showtime got $250M from the Mayweather-Pacquaio fight. All the numbers you came up with are guesses. I don't think they got that $500 in PPV Revenue. I think they got it back through their investment as a whole...

For example a lot of people subscribed to SHO from HBO after Mayweather made the move. SHO got an increase in subscribers taking their Original programming and exposure through the free trials they offered during the Mayweather period of 13/14 and 15.

Again you changed your PPV estimates for Joshua-Wilder first you said it'd do 1M now you say 400K Minimum. Joshua-Wilder won't do more than 400K going by LOGIC.

What defines logic in the TV Buisness is looking at Metrics regarding the two fighters.

[Scipio2009]

Your Maths didn't make sense. I highly doubt Showtime got $250M from the Mayweather-Pacquaio fight. All the numbers you came up with are guesses. I don't think they got that $500 in PPV Revenue. I think they got it back through their investment as a whole...

For example a lot of people subscribed to SHO from HBO after Mayweather made the move. SHO got an increase in subscribers taking their Original programming and exposure through the free trials they offered during the Mayweather period of 13/14 and 15.

Again you changed your PPV estimates for Joshua-Wilder first you said it'd do 1M now you say 400K Minimum. Joshua-Wilder won't do more than 400K going by LOGIC.

What defines logic in the TV Buisness is looking at Metrics regarding the two fighters.

$250m was the Showtime piece of the take; half to the distributors, promoters, etc and Showtime's actual take on the fight was something like $20m but they didn't owe anything on the fight. The point is that the Floyd deal paid for itself with money generated directly from Floyd's PPVs, and anything else was basically profit on top.

I didn't change anything; I'm still of the opinion that Wilder-Joshua at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas is a blockbuster event that should do at least a number near 1 million PPVs.

You pegged the fight at doing 200k-350k; to try and make a bet, I gave you 400k as the market.

Do we have a wager?

[Phenom]

Hearn must be struggling to fill those DAZN dates

[Superbee]

... it isn't that simple: Hearn badly wants to launch DAZN in the U.S., and he tries to somehow lure Wilder into this...

Oh I get that...

The irony is great in Hearn's offer... Funniest is put it any way you want she'll never get even 5M on her own until she faces Joshua...

Maybe Jennifer should think about moving in to U.K. and doing some house keeping for Hearn... That alone would be more $$$ than staying in remote Alabama...

[ChrisCook]

Joshua has reached a ceiling, and it's basically at $45m-$50m for the biggest fights. Tyson Fury may be able to help drum up something extra, but even that won't break 2m homes in the UK.

Folks can argue what they want but that doesn't change the fact that Eddie Hearn got a concrete offer that was to pay only his fighter more money than he could ever imagine generating as his downside guarantee for a blockbuster fight in Las Vegas.

Anthony Joshua has the opportunity to conquer the world; on skill/ability, Wilder and Joshua are 1A/1B without anyone else really all that close, tbh. If Anthony Joshua wants to stay in the UK and tick through $30m purses for the rest of his career, good on him.

If he truly wants to be a billion dollar fighter, he's going to have to see Wilder in Las Vegas, whether he'd like to or not

I actually agree with a lot of what you said above. I can't see Joshua being able to earn more per fight but I don't think he'll see a huge dip for a while either - he really is extremely popular here at the moment. Believe it or not, I'm not a actually big AJ fan and I do think that Wilder comes across better infont of the camera; but whether Wilder wins, well I'm not so sure. Regarding the concrete offer - there was no contract offer to outline the finer details, Wilder's team refused to meet and gave a 24 hour deadline while refusing to answer any questions... they were calling AJ/Hearn's bluff (who should have know better in the first place) and got a story out of it.
I believe the fight will happen but it will probably take place in London. AJ will fight in the US - he absolutely has too, from everyone's point of view but the Wilder fight will take place in the UK (at least the first one). It seems at the moment, its more a case of proving who has the control.

[_Rexy_]

I want him to take the money and fight Tony Bellew now.


MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!