Comments Thread For: There's Something Evil in Boxing and it Stinks

[Graz]

Bottom line is that money corrupts particularly when the amounts of money escalate to the level of professional boxing. Add to that venues known for odds making and ******** like Vegas and anything is possible. I think one poster’s idea of having more than 3 judges is a good one. Another 3 could be set up off site viewing with varying camera angles to truly have an accurate view of what’s actually happening in the fight. It wouldn’t be a perfect system (people can still be bought) but perhaps better than the one in existence.

[whoseyourdaddy]

I agree totally. They keep doing it... It sucks. Someone should do something. Me, as a fan, they lost me. I won't be watching much boxing at all for the rest of my life.

Good stick to Soccer, Mathasoccer lol

[Awhispersecho]

The scoring problems are an easy fix. Have the judges sit in seperate locations so that they can't communicate with eachother. Then have the judges score each round after it ends and then immediately turn that score in to someone or enter it in some electronic device that doesn't allow it to be changed. There is no reason they should be "reviewing" their scorecards for 10 minutes after a fight ends. Might not prevent everything but sure would help some. Boxing doesn't want any of this fixed though because they are all in on it.

[Raggamuffin]

The young man rallied and barely won. Could've even been a draw. But the cards were an embarrassment to the sport, its fans and the fighters.

[Raggamuffin]

Props to Taylor. He dug deep. That is hard to do....to not only come back, but to come back AND win.

[Marvlus Marv]

Adalaide Byrd: 'challenge accepted'

Dropping that name is a killer. It used to be Lisa Giampa some years ago. Is Lawrence Cole more corrupt than Terry O'Connor? It's hard to say.

[Marvlus Marv]

You think the UK is worse than the US? The US is the most corrupt country in the world. In fact, there is more corruption in the US than the rest of the world combined.

Not even Lawrence Cole would help a fighter back to his corner (Cleverly vs Kovalev) after he tried to wave off the fight at the end of the 3rd. It was only when the bell sounded that O'Connor pretended that he didn't try to stop it. O'Connor is the most crooked ref in boxing.

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Blame Scotland, not the UK.


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[Sid-Knee]

Not even Lawrence Cole would help a fighter back to his corner (Cleverly vs Kovalev) after he tried to wave off the fight at the end of the 3rd. It was only when the bell sounded that O'Connor pretended that he didn't try to stop it. O'Connor is the most crooked ref in boxing.

O'Connor was going to stop the Cleverly fight but the bell went so he gave him another go as he was the champion. O'Connor had hold of him at the time and just took a few steps towards his corner and pushed Cleverly towards it. He never carried him.

There are numerous fights which were corrupt in the states, but they are so many i'm not going to list them all. But two fights that were horrendous were the Ward/Kessler fight in which Ward was allowed to grab hold of Kessler all night and headbutt him. The fact the ref never even took a point off Ward shows they were willing to cheat the title away from Kessler.


Ever heard the saying "You need to knock them out to get a draw"? Well that actually happened in the states. Look no further than Martinez vs Cintron. Martinez hit him with a perfectly legal punch to knock him out but the ref called foul. So the fight went on. Martinez won the fight clearly at the end but the judges actually came back with a draw. So Martinez was ripped off twice in the same fight. That's corruption.

America has dodgy cards with every event they put out. One of them at the least is a robbery. To say that the UK comes anywhere near to the **** that happens over there is criminal. We will never be on their level for corruption and robberies. Never.

[Marvlus Marv]

O'Connor was going to stop the Cleverly fight but the bell went so he gave him another go as he was the champion. O'Connor had hold of him at the time and just took a few steps towards his corner and pushed Cleverly towards it. He never carried him.

There are numerous fights which were corrupt in the states, but they are so many i'm not going to list them all. But two fights that were horrendous were the Ward/Kessler fight in which Ward was allowed to grab hold of Kessler all night and headbutt him. The fact the ref never even took a point off Ward shows they were willing to cheat the title away from Kessler.


Ever heard the saying "You need to knock them out to get a draw"? Well that actually happened in the states. Look no further than Martinez vs Cintron. Martinez hit him with a perfectly legal punch to knock him out but the ref called foul. So the fight went on. Martinez won the fight clearly at the end but the judges actually came back with a draw. So Martinez was ripped off twice in the same fight. That's corruption.

America has dodgy cards with every event they put out. One of them at the least is a robbery. To say that the UK comes anywhere near to the **** that happens over there is criminal. We will never be on their level for corruption and robberies. Never.

No way I'm saying the US is without it's own set of rotten officials (I still remember Lisa Giampa) but I've seen Terry pull ALL SORTS of stunts to give the home fighter the advantage. But that has to be the kindest assessment I've ever heard of O'Connors ''handling'' of Cleverly. And his Calzaghe vs Manfredo stoppage was a joke, too, imo. I'm sure he's waved off a few of Joe's fights very early.
I very much agree about Ward vs Kessler. The headbutting was atrocious and even Al Bernstein called Ward a ''billy goat gruff" whilst commentating.
Overall, I'm gonna call the corruption argument a tie. It stinks.