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  • #41
    Originally posted by Biolink View Post
    Why would he intentionally rig the event and deny himself a cut of the ESPN PPV money? Bob is greedy, might be petty, but he's definitely not that ****** especially since Pacquiao is at the very end and he won't get too many opportunities to capitalize like that anymore by passing on anyone willing to pay to see an old dog fight.

    Also Top Rank and Golden Boy are on working terms since Bob convinced Oscar to fire Schaefer(Also those emails about Haymon being a black supremacist, etc...). They have no choice, otherwise they'll be buried by Haymon.
    because he wanted manny to fight mike alvarado instead. this way he controls who gets paid how much.

    in this fight with manny and lucas, arum and TR is not the promoter, they're only handling broadcasting the fight in the US.

    one thing to take into account in all this is how quiet arum and koncz is. especially koncz. i have not hear one word from koncz regarding how training is going, etc.

    usually around this time, we'll get 2-3 interviews from koncz on updates on how everything is going, but for this fight, there's nothing from him.

    and when arum does speak out on this fight, its not positive but negative such as what he's doing now about matching crawford with lucas if the fight with manny doesnt go thru.

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    • #42
      Even if he coming off a loss? lol

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      • #43
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
        Bob is salty because the plan was for Manny to fight he Crawford/Horn winner. Knowing full well Bud would win, he wanted to use PAC as the catapult for Crawford's name and career. Give him a signature win over a faded PPV draw. PAC held his ground and made the Matthysse fight despite Arum's objections.
        You make assumptions based upon what you think but the facts are a different story. Fact, from day one Freddy and Pac both said they would never fight Crawford, too big, too fast, too young. No matter what you or other fans may think, Crawford was never a consideration and that's simply a mater of record. Heck, Crawford said many times that Pac was too old. Pac picked Matthysse because he's one of the few WW that Pac might still be able to beat, nothing more nothing less.

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        • #44
          Either way, Crawford is gonna get an easy fight, that ends in with a KO

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          • #45
            If this fight falls through Arum will offer Pacquiao a fight with Crawford for a nice retirement payday later in the year and then be done with Pacman.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
              You make assumptions based upon what you think but the facts are a different story. Fact, from day one Freddy and Pac both said they would never fight Crawford, too big, too fast, too young. No matter what you or other fans may think, Crawford was never a consideration and that's simply a mater of record. Heck, Crawford said many times that Pac was too old. Pac picked Matthysse because he's one of the few WW that Pac might still be able to beat, nothing more nothing less.
              Roach: If We're Gonna Stay in Boxing, Manny Must Fight Crawford!

              “[Arum] wants the Crawford fight,” Roach said Wednesday before a question-and-answer session, “Manny will fight anybody,” Roach said.

              “[Arum] wants that fight,” Roach said. “The thing is, I think he’s trying to make Crawford into a bigger star. If he beat Manny, it would help. But I think Manny can beat him. The thing is, I mean, he is a good fighter. I do respect him. He’s a very good boxer. He can move. He can run like hell if he wants to. But can he beat Manny? I don’t think so.”

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              • #47
                Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS View Post
                I see....some of you are so optimistic in Manny, you overlook obvious signs of his judgement......He didnt wear a condom while fooooking a ********** #1 (nothing else needed!), he should've did what he saw Oscar and Floyd did before him, his multiple bankruptcy cases, etc............Now you guys expect him to be some sort of genius business CEO.........YOU GUYS GIVE ARUM WAAAAAY TO MUCH CREDIT TO AVOID THE OBVIOUS, Manny hired more buboys
                You said Pac has multiple bankruptcy cases? Stop lying, Pac is the 3rd richest boxer in the world ever, next to Mayweather and George Foreman. He owns mansions and businesses in Asia (not to mention the mansion he owns in Los Angeles), even his friend Buboy lives in a mansion. This is a list of 10 big boxing names who went bankrupt according to bleacher report: 1. Mike Tyson 2. Evander Holyfield. 3. Rid**** Bowe. 4. Thomas Hearns. 5. Fernando Vargas. 6. Leon Spinks. 7. Dariusz Michalczewski. 8. Ray Robinson. 9. Scott Harrison. 10. Joe Louis.

                Nice try!!!
                Last edited by Bluebird; 06-24-2018, 04:00 PM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                  You make assumptions based upon what you think but the facts are a different story. Fact, from day one Freddy and Pac both said they would never fight Crawford, too big, too fast, too young. No matter what you or other fans may think, Crawford was never a consideration and that's simply a mater of record. Heck, Crawford said many times that Pac was too old. Pac picked Matthysse because he's one of the few WW that Pac might still be able to beat, nothing more nothing less.
                  Sounds like you are making some assumptions of your own. Don’t let your hate blind you.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                    Uh-Oh, I hope Bob isn't behind the scenes pulling strings in order to sabotage this fight because he was totally cut out of the promotional side of the event. I am not saying he is but it is highly likely and there is the strong possibility that he could be setting Manny Pacquiao up to fail.
                    You are absolutely correct , Uncle Bob just getting started here with Manny . Roach was easy to dump cause he was under the food chain order . Now when cut the grocery owner out of almost everything in the event don't expect Xmas cards from Top Rank !! Tip of the iceberg , going 1 or 2 books out near future maybe 3 ( Roach) Manny side , Bob Arums and Roach !! Bet all 3 books become best sellers !!!! Lmao might be better then fight with LM !

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                    • #50
                      Is this a boxing forum or a gossip site? You guys are like a bunch of old ladies at a quilting bee.
                      Why do you care about anything other than the fight happening?
                      Isn't your money and nobody here knows what's going on anyway.

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