Wilder: I talked to AJ. Showed him things Eddie didn't show him. AJ wants the $50 mil

[IMDAZED]

God, when will you idiots stop with the imaginary 50 million??? It never existed. Get that please and move on. It was always Wilder trying to save face. He gets 1 million per fight, if that so he and his team don't have 50 million. If they did, they would have met with Hearn that week instead of saying "sign first, then we will meet". Who does that? Come on. You guys can't be THAT ****** can you??????

[WhatDisButtonDo]

God, when will you idiots stop with the imaginary 50 million??? It never existed. Get that please and move on. It was always Wilder trying to save face. He gets 1 million per fight, if that so he and his team don't have 50 million. If they did, they would have met with Hearn that week instead of saying "sign first, then we will meet". Who does that? Come on. You guys can't be THAT ****** can you??????

Hearn is lying, at first he said there was no offer and then he proved lying and came out and admitted it. After Wilder showed the offer he basically tried to crap on him by asking where it'd come from (Showtime Haymon and Co obviously) If you don't like Wilder, just say that, you don't have to make up reasons why you don't like a guy.
Riddle me this, when has there ever been a promoter in boxing that loved to hog the cameras that wasn't shady?

[N/A]

Hahahahaha deflection level 100

You post a lie with no proof.

I point out it's a lie.

You demand proof, while refusing to post proof. Then claim it's "deflection" when you're asked to prove your lie.

Brilliant. Good job man. Cong**** on one of the dumbest trolls in the history of this site.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Looked through my posts for the list of Brits beating Americans so I could copy and paste but I can't find it. So i'll have to write it out again. Here it is...


Lennox Lewis: Grant, Holyfield x2, Briggs, Rahman, Tyson, Mercer, Morrison, McCall and Tucker.

David Haye: Ruiz.

Frank Bruno: McCall.

Michael Bentt: Morrison

AJ: Brezeale and Martin.

Joe Calzaghe: Brewer, Mitchell, Sheika, Lacy, Hopkins and Jones.

Carl Froch: Taylor and Dirrell.

Nigel Benn: Williams, Dewitt, Barkley, Sims and McClellan.

Chris Eubank: Holmes.

James Degale: Dirrell.

Kell Brook: Porter.

Lloyd Honeyghan: Curry and Blocker.

Amir Khan: Judah, Alexander, Malignaggi, Collazo and Peterson (Robbery).

Ricky Hatton: Philips, Collazo and Malignaggi.

Junior Witter: Corley and Harris.

Naseem Hamed: Johnson, Kelley and Sanchez.

Lee Selby: Hunter.

Paul Ingle: Junior Jones.

Terry Flanagan: Magdaleno.

That is 49 wins we have over you over the last 40 years. The list of Americans beating Brits over the same period won't match that. But try anyway, yeah?

Yawn 52

DeGale vs Truax: Truax
Mayweather vs Hatton: Mayweather
Tyson vs Bruno: Tyson
Freddy Curiel vs. Alan Minter: Freddy Curiel
Alfonso Gomez vs. Martin Concepcion: Alfonso Gomez
Jerson Ravelo vs. Paul Buchanan: Jerson Ravelo
Cornelius Bundrage vs. Colin McNeil: Cornelius Bundrage
Andre Ward vs Carl Froch: Andre Ward
Alan Minter vs Marvin Hagler: Marvin Hagler
Errol Spence vs. Kell Brook: Errol Spence
Daniel Jacobs vs Jimmy Smith: Daniel Jacobs
Thomas Hearns vs Dennis Andries: Thomas Hearns
Thomas Hearns vs Murray Sutherland: Thomas Hearns
Rid**** Bowe vs Herbie Hide: Rid**** Bowe
Michael Spinks vs. Murray Sutherland: Michael Spinks
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Danny Boy Green: Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones vs Courtney Fry: Roy Jones
Roy Jones vs Clinton Woods: Roy Jones
John Ruiz vs Michael Murray: John Ruiz
John Ruiz vs Julius Francis: John Ruiz
John Ruiz vs Cordwell Hylton: John Ruiz
Antonio Tarver vs Clinton Woods: Antonio Tarver
James Toney vs Matt Kegg: James Toney
Michael Nunn vs Crawford Ashley: Michael Nunn
Marlon Starling vs Lloyd Honeyghan: Marlon Starling
Mark Breland vs Lloyd Honeyghan: Mark Breland
Pernell Whitaker vs Gary Jacobs: Pernell Whitaker
Zab Judah vs Junior Witter: Zab Judah
Shane Mosley vs Adrian Stone: Shane Mosley
Adrian Broner vs Ashley Theopane: Adrian Broner
Adrian Broner vs Gavin Rees: Adrian Broner
Danny Garcia vs Amir Khan: Danny Garcia
Danny Garcia vs Ashley Theopane: Danny Garcia
Brandon Ríos vs John Murray: Brandon Ríos
Lamont Peterson vs Amir Khan: Lamont Peterson
Devon Alexander vs Lee Purdy: Devon Alexander
Devon Alexander vs Junior Witter: Devon Alexander
Timothy Bradley vs Junior Witter: Timothy Bradley
Vernon Forrest vs Adrian Stone: Vernon Forrest
Winky Wright vs Adrian Dodson: Winky Wright
Winky Wright vs Steve Foster: Winky Wright
Winky Wright vs Ensley Bingham: Winky Wright
Fernando Vargas vs Howard Clarke: Fernando Vargas
Peter Quillin vs Craig McEwan: Pete Quillin
Brian Vera vs. Andy Lee: Brian Vera
Demetrius Andrade vs Brian Rose: Demetrius Andrade
Terrance Crawford vs Ricky Burns: Terrance Crawford
Maurice Hooker vs Terry Flanagan: Maurice Hooker
Gervonta Davis vs Liam Walsh: Gervonta Davis
Micky Ward vs Shea Neary: Micky Ward
William Joppy vs Carlos Christie: William Joppy
Charles Brewer vs Herol Graham: Charles Brewer

[Boxingfanatic75]

That's quite the gauntlet to chuck down... It'll be interesting to see the reply if one comes.

It came with 52

DeGale vs Truax: Truax
Mayweather vs Hatton: Mayweather
Tyson vs Bruno: Tyson
Freddy Curiel vs. Alan Minter: Freddy Curiel
Alfonso Gomez vs. Martin Concepcion: Alfonso Gomez
Jerson Ravelo vs. Paul Buchanan: Jerson Ravelo
Cornelius Bundrage vs. Colin McNeil: Cornelius Bundrage
Andre Ward vs Carl Froch: Andre Ward
Alan Minter vs Marvin Hagler: Marvin Hagler
Errol Spence vs. Kell Brook: Errol Spence
Daniel Jacobs vs Jimmy Smith: Daniel Jacobs
Thomas Hearns vs Dennis Andries: Thomas Hearns
Thomas Hearns vs Murray Sutherland: Thomas Hearns
Rid**** Bowe vs Herbie Hide: Rid**** Bowe
Michael Spinks vs. Murray Sutherland: Michael Spinks
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Danny Boy Green: Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones vs Courtney Fry: Roy Jones
Roy Jones vs Clinton Woods: Roy Jones
John Ruiz vs Michael Murray: John Ruiz
John Ruiz vs Julius Francis: John Ruiz
John Ruiz vs Cordwell Hylton: John Ruiz
Antonio Tarver vs Clinton Woods: Antonio Tarver
James Toney vs Matt Kegg: James Toney
Michael Nunn vs Crawford Ashley: Michael Nunn
Marlon Starling vs Lloyd Honeyghan: Marlon Starling
Mark Breland vs Lloyd Honeyghan: Mark Breland
Pernell Whitaker vs Gary Jacobs: Pernell Whitaker
Zab Judah vs Junior Witter: Zab Judah
Shane Mosley vs Adrian Stone: Shane Mosley
Adrian Broner vs Ashley Theopane: Adrian Broner
Adrian Broner vs Gavin Rees: Adrian Broner
Danny Garcia vs Amir Khan: Danny Garcia
Danny Garcia vs Ashley Theopane: Danny Garcia
Brandon Ríos vs John Murray: Brandon Ríos
Lamont Peterson vs Amir Khan: Lamont Peterson
Devon Alexander vs Lee Purdy: Devon Alexander
Devon Alexander vs Junior Witter: Devon Alexander
Timothy Bradley vs Junior Witter: Timothy Bradley
Vernon Forrest vs Adrian Stone: Vernon Forrest
Winky Wright vs Adrian Dodson: Winky Wright
Winky Wright vs Steve Foster: Winky Wright
Winky Wright vs Ensley Bingham: Winky Wright
Fernando Vargas vs Howard Clarke: Fernando Vargas
Peter Quillin vs Craig McEwan: Pete Quillin
Brian Vera vs. Andy Lee: Brian Vera
Demetrius Andrade vs Brian Rose: Demetrius Andrade
Terrance Crawford vs Ricky Burns: Terrance Crawford
Maurice Hooker vs Terry Flanagan: Maurice Hooker
Gervonta Davis vs Liam Walsh: Gervonta Davis
Micky Ward vs Shea Neary: Micky Ward
William Joppy vs Carlos Christie: William Joppy
Charles Brewer vs Herol Graham: Charles Brewer

[yammy25]

It came with 52

DeGale vs Truax: Truax
Mayweather vs Hatton: Mayweather
Tyson vs Bruno: Tyson
Freddy Curiel vs. Alan Minter: Freddy Curiel
Alfonso Gomez vs. Martin Concepcion: Alfonso Gomez
Jerson Ravelo vs. Paul Buchanan: Jerson Ravelo
Cornelius Bundrage vs. Colin McNeil: Cornelius Bundrage
Andre Ward vs Carl Froch: Andre Ward
Alan Minter vs Marvin Hagler: Marvin Hagler
Errol Spence vs. Kell Brook: Errol Spence
Daniel Jacobs vs Jimmy Smith: Daniel Jacobs
Thomas Hearns vs Dennis Andries: Thomas Hearns
Thomas Hearns vs Murray Sutherland: Thomas Hearns
Rid**** Bowe vs Herbie Hide: Rid**** Bowe
Michael Spinks vs. Murray Sutherland: Michael Spinks
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Danny Boy Green: Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones vs Courtney Fry: Roy Jones
Roy Jones vs Clinton Woods: Roy Jones
John Ruiz vs Michael Murray: John Ruiz
John Ruiz vs Julius Francis: John Ruiz
John Ruiz vs Cordwell Hylton: John Ruiz
Antonio Tarver vs Clinton Woods: Antonio Tarver
James Toney vs Matt Kegg: James Toney
Michael Nunn vs Crawford Ashley: Michael Nunn
Marlon Starling vs Lloyd Honeyghan: Marlon Starling
Mark Breland vs Lloyd Honeyghan: Mark Breland
Pernell Whitaker vs Gary Jacobs: Pernell Whitaker
Zab Judah vs Junior Witter: Zab Judah
Shane Mosley vs Adrian Stone: Shane Mosley
Adrian Broner vs Ashley Theopane: Adrian Broner
Adrian Broner vs Gavin Rees: Adrian Broner
Danny Garcia vs Amir Khan: Danny Garcia
Danny Garcia vs Ashley Theopane: Danny Garcia
Brandon Ríos vs John Murray: Brandon Ríos
Lamont Peterson vs Amir Khan: Lamont Peterson
Devon Alexander vs Lee Purdy: Devon Alexander
Devon Alexander vs Junior Witter: Devon Alexander
Timothy Bradley vs Junior Witter: Timothy Bradley
Vernon Forrest vs Adrian Stone: Vernon Forrest
Winky Wright vs Adrian Dodson: Winky Wright
Winky Wright vs Steve Foster: Winky Wright
Winky Wright vs Ensley Bingham: Winky Wright
Fernando Vargas vs Howard Clarke: Fernando Vargas
Peter Quillin vs Craig McEwan: Pete Quillin
Brian Vera vs. Andy Lee: Brian Vera
Demetrius Andrade vs Brian Rose: Demetrius Andrade
Terrance Crawford vs Ricky Burns: Terrance Crawford
Maurice Hooker vs Terry Flanagan: Maurice Hooker
Gervonta Davis vs Liam Walsh: Gervonta Davis
Micky Ward vs Shea Neary: Micky Ward
William Joppy vs Carlos Christie: William Joppy
Charles Brewer vs Herol Graham: Charles Brewer

Oohh dis gon be guuuddd

[Boxingfanatic75]

Oohh dis gon be guuuddd

Difference between his and mine is that he cites a handful of fighters and their 6-7 wins over Americans. WELL DUH!!! when your country respresents the majority of boxing in the world of course your going to fight Americans. I’ve got 100 more lined up when he replies. And if he is dumb enough to do it again I’ll line up 100 more until this no nothing gets it through his thick skull the big names of all time have been in the US. I did like Hatton though

[Sid-Knee]

Yawn 52

DeGale vs Truax: Truax
Mayweather vs Hatton: Mayweather
Tyson vs Bruno: Tyson
Freddy Curiel vs. Alan Minter: Freddy Curiel
Alfonso Gomez vs. Martin Concepcion: Alfonso Gomez
Jerson Ravelo vs. Paul Buchanan: Jerson Ravelo
Cornelius Bundrage vs. Colin McNeil: Cornelius Bundrage
Andre Ward vs Carl Froch: Andre Ward
Alan Minter vs Marvin Hagler: Marvin Hagler
Errol Spence vs. Kell Brook: Errol Spence
Daniel Jacobs vs Jimmy Smith: Daniel Jacobs
Thomas Hearns vs Dennis Andries: Thomas Hearns
Thomas Hearns vs Murray Sutherland: Thomas Hearns
Rid**** Bowe vs Herbie Hide: Rid**** Bowe
Michael Spinks vs. Murray Sutherland: Michael Spinks
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Danny Boy Green: Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones vs Courtney Fry: Roy Jones
Roy Jones vs Clinton Woods: Roy Jones
John Ruiz vs Michael Murray: John Ruiz
John Ruiz vs Julius Francis: John Ruiz
John Ruiz vs Cordwell Hylton: John Ruiz
Antonio Tarver vs Clinton Woods: Antonio Tarver
James Toney vs Matt Kegg: James Toney
Michael Nunn vs Crawford Ashley: Michael Nunn
Marlon Starling vs Lloyd Honeyghan: Marlon Starling
Mark Breland vs Lloyd Honeyghan: Mark Breland
Pernell Whitaker vs Gary Jacobs: Pernell Whitaker
Zab Judah vs Junior Witter: Zab Judah
Shane Mosley vs Adrian Stone: Shane Mosley
Adrian Broner vs Ashley Theopane: Adrian Broner
Adrian Broner vs Gavin Rees: Adrian Broner
Danny Garcia vs Amir Khan: Danny Garcia
Danny Garcia vs Ashley Theopane: Danny Garcia
Brandon Ríos vs John Murray: Brandon Ríos
Lamont Peterson vs Amir Khan: Lamont Peterson
Devon Alexander vs Lee Purdy: Devon Alexander
Devon Alexander vs Junior Witter: Devon Alexander
Timothy Bradley vs Junior Witter: Timothy Bradley
Vernon Forrest vs Adrian Stone: Vernon Forrest
Winky Wright vs Adrian Dodson: Winky Wright
Winky Wright vs Steve Foster: Winky Wright
Winky Wright vs Ensley Bingham: Winky Wright
Fernando Vargas vs Howard Clarke: Fernando Vargas
Peter Quillin vs Craig McEwan: Pete Quillin
Brian Vera vs. Andy Lee: Brian Vera
Demetrius Andrade vs Brian Rose: Demetrius Andrade
Terrance Crawford vs Ricky Burns: Terrance Crawford
Maurice Hooker vs Terry Flanagan: Maurice Hooker
Gervonta Davis vs Liam Walsh: Gervonta Davis
Micky Ward vs Shea Neary: Micky Ward
William Joppy vs Carlos Christie: William Joppy
Charles Brewer vs Herol Graham: Charles Brewer

Oh dear, most of them are bums. I'm only including good fighters or better. A few times they weren't proven to be good like a Brezeale or a Martin but, they had the same amount of fights as Joshua so were prospects. I think that's fair. You're going to have to do your list that only includes good fighters or better. This is nothing but trash. I bet you spent the last couple of days looking on Boxrec for any old ****e? It looks like it.

You do know I've got a **** ton more wins if we're including any old rubbish don't you?


Degale beat Truex in the rematch so they cancel each other out. Why do you think I never put it down?


Andy Lee is Irish, not British. So those wins don't count.

Jacobs beat Jimmy Campbell, not Smith. He's a tomato-can.

Everything about this list is gruesome. Take most of them off and only include good wins or better, please.

[Sid-Knee]

Oohh dis gon be guuuddd

Most of the list consists of bums. There are hardly any good wins there. He's been all over Boxrec looking for any old garbage. I never put bums down because I have standards. Who the hell would boast about beating a load of bums?


If I included bums as well, I think there would be about 200 or more over the last 40 years. His list is an eye-sore.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Oh dear, most of them are bums. I'm only including good fighters or better. A few times they weren't proven to be good like a Brezeale or a Martin but, they had the same amount of fights as Joshua so were prospects. I think that's fair. You're going to have to do your list that only includes good fighters or better. This is nothing but trash. I bet you spent the last couple of days looking on Boxrec for any old ****e? It looks like it.

You do know I've got a **** ton more wins if we're including any old rubbish don't you?


Degale beat Truex in the rematch so they cancel each other out. Why do you think I never put it down?


Andy Lee is Irish, not British. So those wins don't count.

Jacobs beat Jimmy Campbell, not Smith. He's a tomato-can.

Everything about this list is gruesome. Take most of them off and only include good wins or better, please.

Lol you can’t move the goal posts when you decide it doesn’t benefit your argument. Just face it US boxing has and will Trump all others. Just type in greatest boxers all time and look at the pics. I’ll save you time it’s mostly by a far shot US. And about Andy Lee, you are wrong. He may call himself Irish but her was born in
Bow, London, England. Furthermore the UK consist of England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. How is it that I know more about your own county than you?