Hearn sent the contract to Wilder 3 days late. Now he's ignoring Wilder's emails

[juggernaut666]

Hearn is refusing to give a percentage. So clearly he was lying. What else is he lying about?

You can't claim the 50 million offer wasn't real due to the gamesmanship of matching Hearn's initial two day clock because it's already been confirmed the 50 million offer is still on the table and Hearn is refusing to accept.

So in the other post you are claiming that details need to be looked over which includes pages, but then you are claiming a 50 Million offer with a 24 hour dead line on it was real ? lol

Do you ever stop contradicting yourself ?


The 50 Million was NOT real unless Joshua signed to a contract.


THATS THE ONLY WAY FINKEL GETS THE MONEY .

Hearn acknowledged the 50 Million BACKING Finkel had .

Finkel does NOT have remotely 50 Million to gain back on Wilder.

What sponsor do you think would LEND Haymon 50 Million iif Wilder was not fighting Joshua ?

The answer is ZERO !

Joshua is making over 30 Million in the U.K on this . He will take a MINIMAL hit in comparison to a 50 Million U.S rate .

Wilder IS going to take about a FIFTEEN Million hit if he doesn't even fight Joshua and make about 2 Million if hes lucky . lol

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please explain:

1: how the 50M offer was a serious offer considering the deadline, unavailability and so on and on

Very happy to explain. Thank you for asking. The deadline was irrelevant. That was just negotiating gamesmanship. Hearn's offer had a 48 hour deadline, so Wilder's counter offer was of course going to include a 48 hour deadline. A lot of negotiating is psychological. All sorts of mind games are played when this much money is at stake. Those claiming the "deadline" made the offer insincere weren't saying that when Hearn's prior offer had an identical deadline.

The 50 million offer is still on the table to this day. It's a very serious offer. Confirmed by both AJ and Hearn as being very real. So why are you claiming otherwise?

2: how precisely that offer caught AJ 'with his pants down'?

Because he never thought in a million years they'd actually call his bluff and offer 50 million. So now he's been exposed for what he really is. A fighter who will only fight when every advantage is completely stacked in his favor. Going all the way back to the bogus decision that gave him the gold medal.

Typically in a fight this big, you go where the money is. For AJ to refuse to honor the offer he demanded, and instead insist he'd rather fight at home for far less money, shows a lack of courage practically unheard of in prize fighting. Typically fighters go where the money is and whatever happens happens. To demand substantially less money to fight at home so you can tilt the outcome in your favor isn't something that should be respected.

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We can go over it again and again but the fact is that AJ never promised to fight in the US for $50m flat fee with all variables in Wilders favour and no rematch clause.

Bring me 50 million I'll sign tomorrow. His words. No mention of upside. Wilder was offered 12 flat and in response AJ said give me 50 flat. Wilder wasn't give a rematch clause in his 12 flat offer, why would AJ be given a rematch clause? He named his price, they came up with the money.

Describing that $12.5m offer as lowballing is quite distasteful to be honest.

How the **** would you even know? Seriously. You have absolutely no experience negotiating fights. If you don't consider an 88/12 split a low ball offer, there is something wrong with you. Hearn has the A-side. Hearn's job is to open with a lowball offer. For you to deny it was a lowball offer is for you to suggest that Hearn is incompetent and doesn't know how to do his job. The A-side ALWAYS opens with a lowball offer. That is how negotiating works. But you don't know that because you don't know anything about negotiating.

[LacedUp]

Confirmed. It's the reason Wilder gave an identical deadline. I've seen Hearn's initial offer and the two day window was definitely in there. Was widely reported as well as Finkel had sent the offer to several reporters. I was shown the offer by Dibella. There's no doubt the 12 million offer had a two day clock, just as the 50 million offer did.

Not confirmed - do you have proof?

And Deontay Wilder didn't give 48 hours he gave 24 hours and didn't want to discuss any of the 'major points' that you referred to earlier.

They said 50m and you must agree in 24 hours. That was literally their offer. No meetings was allowed and no discussions were allowed to be had. So you're contradicting yourself a little bit.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...d-heavyweight/

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And Deontay Wilder didn't give 48 hours he gave 24 hours and didn't want to discuss any of the 'major points' that you referred to earlier.

Lie. Wilder's offer had a deadline of "by the end of tomorrow." Just as Hearn's offer had a deadline of "by the end of tomorrow."

Can't complain about Wilder's deadline when it was identical to Hearn's deadline. Which was intentional. They were mocking him.

[boliodogs]

I doubt they will fight any time soon. Neither side seems serious and both sides do things in such a strange way like they could care less if this fight gets made or not. Heard could fed ex the contract to Wilder in one day and Wilder could fed ex it back signed the next day. They don't need e mails. They could talk on the phone.

[LacedUp]

Lie. Wilder's offer had a deadline of "by the end of tomorrow." Just as Hearn's offer had a deadline of "by the end of tomorrow."

Can't complain about Wilder's deadline when it was identical to Hearn's deadline. Which was intentional. They were mocking him.

Are we talking about the 12million? Because as far as I remembered, that was a rumour, it wasn't confirmed by anyone. If I'm wrong I'd like to see some proof - because EH said not true in interviews.

Well, the difference is that Hearn sent an offer with broadcasters, dates and venues. Wilder just sent a number.

[BattlingNelson]

Very happy to explain. Thank you for asking. The deadline was irrelevant. That was just negotiating gamesmanship. Hearn's offer had a 48 hour deadline, so Wilder's counter offer was of course going to include a 48 hour deadline. A lot of negotiating is psychological. All sorts of mind games are played when this much money is at stake. Those claiming the "deadline" made the offer insincere weren't saying that when Hearn's prior offer had an identical deadline.

You cannot claim that the 50M offer was serious because Hearn had made an offer with the same deadline. That's just nonsense and doesn't allign at all with your previous post about legal papers etc.

The 50 million offer is still on the table to this day. It's a very serious offer. Confirmed by both AJ and Hearn as being very real. So why are you claiming otherwise?

I didn't know that the offer is still on the table and if it is then it was initially bogus since it clearly stipulated a deadline that, accoding to you, wasn't there anyway.

Because he never thought in a million years they'd actually call his bluff and offer 50 million. So now he's been exposed for what he really is. A fighter who will only fight when every advantage is completely stacked in his favor. Going all the way back to the bogus decision that gave him the gold medal.

Typically in a fight this big, you go where the money is. For AJ to refuse to honor the offer he demanded, and instead insist he'd rather fight at home for far less money, shows a lack of courage practically unheard of in prize fighting. Typically fighters go where the money is and whatever happens happens. To demand substantially less money to fight at home so you can tilt the outcome in your favor isn't something that should be respected.

Well if the money is there and they can negotiate the terms then for sure they should take the 50M offer. What you don't know is whther this offer contains stipulations of ridiculous things as for example AJ having to do a marketing tour of 50 major US cities or something else that would compromise his preparations.

Dude. Drop the Wilder koolaid. Isn't that what you typically tell Joshua fanbois?

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Sorry for spelling Hearn wrong.

[uppercut510]

the same posters who agreed with eddie having questions about the 50mil and that the 4 questions need to be answered are now saying wilder is stalling for having questions as if they know exactly whats in the contract. the most unfair delusional fan base