How would you honestly rate Golovkin?

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  • Hewito
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    #191
    Originally posted by DreamFighter
    very true, but you realise you are using one win as the basis for an argument here?

    thousands of boxers have one elite win. many thousands have one world class win.
    He still fighting, many think He won against canelo and if he wins against canelo(on record) you will still say is because canelo is no longer on peds. Look I understand, is human nature, people always say, X won against Z,but there is no way he could beat Y. It does not matter how many times or who you win against,people will always say "but I will bet you if he ever faces such and such,he will get killed"..GGG to some people is first ballot hall of famer, to some he shouldnt even be handed the keys to clean the place. but,if you look at yourself and I, he has achieved more that most people have. He is,like all the fighters in my opinion that make it, a elite athlete.

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    • Boxing Goat
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      #192
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      Often it is obvious that the Lineal Champ is not the best fighter in the division.
      And? More times than not, that's not the case. And GGG is already the best and it's obvious but he won't be universally recognized until he get's an 'OFFICIAL' win over Canelo.

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      • TonyGe
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        #193
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat
        And? More times than not, that's not the case. And GGG is already the best and it's obvious but he won't be universally recognized until he get's an 'OFFICIAL' win over Canelo.
        I suppose some people see it that way. That's just my view and I'm not talking just about Canelo, Golovkin I'm saying in general.

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        • davef
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          #194
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          They were all top 5 in the division when GGG beat them you twit
          heres some facts about mr golovkins resume dip**** before the jacobs and canelo fights

          He has faced only three undefeated opponents in his career
          the caliber of undefeated opponents is pretty tame. In 2009, Golovkin defeated Mikhail Makarov who was 10-0 at the time. Makarov retired 12-1 with a non-descript career.

          The third unblemished opponent he faced was Kell Brook a welterweight

          He acquired his titles from the likes of Milton Nunez (interim WBA title), Lajuan Simon (IBO), Marco Antonio Rubio (interim WBC) and David Lemieux (IBF)

          Macklin beaten by jaime moore long before golovkin what an ATG

          Rubio lost to goddam Julio Cesar Chavez Jr who was likely stoned out of his mind before facing golovkin

          you know what im not even gonna waste anymore time trying to talk to you you are a casual fan take that username down trying to legitamize his resume before he fought jacobs and canelo lol gtfo of here

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          • KingHippo
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            #195
            Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            Ok then, GGG haters (you, for example) dispute that. there's plenty of those. Success breeds hate. There's nothing to not like about GGG but his skin tone.
            There are a lot of legitimate reasons to hate Golovkin. What I hate the most about him is his unwillingness to fight outside of his division. Most of the people I rooted for in my life are multiple division champs, unless they're heavyweights. I also hate how risk averse he is and how he's always looking for an advantage, like when he tried to drain Ward to 164 instead of directly ducking him and would't even give Kell Brook a catch weight when they fought.

            I hate how overrated he is as well. Only looked dominant because of the trash opposition he's faced. He was barely able to sc**** by a non p4p fighter in Jacobs and a smaller fighter facing his first actual middleweight in Canelo. And then there's the fans, easily the most biased, hypocritical, insecure and ignorant fanbase to ever curse the sport.

            White fighters like Usyk who completely picked apart elite competition and Lomachenko who are always up for a challenge are the types I respect. Golovkin is, and will always be, an overrated two faced camping b1tch in my book.

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            • AKAcronym
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              #196
              Originally posted by KingHippo
              There are a lot of legitimate reasons to hate Golovkin. What I hate the most about him is his unwillingness to fight outside of his division. Most of the people I rooted for in my life are multiple division champs, unless they're heavyweights. I also hate how risk averse he is and how he's always looking for an advantage, like when he tried to drain Ward to 164 instead of directly ducking him and would't even give Kell Brook a catch weight when they fought.

              I hate how overrated he is as well. Only looked dominant because of the trash opposition he's faced. He was barely able to sc**** by a non p4p fighter in Jacobs and a smaller fighter facing his first actual middleweight in Canelo. And then there's the fans, easily the most biased, hypocritical, insecure and ignorant fanbase to ever curse the sport.

              White fighters like Usyk who completely picked apart elite competition and Lomachenko who are always up for a challenge are the types I respect. Golovkin is, and will always be, an overrated two faced camping b1tch in my book.
              Don't think you realize your inconsistencies but I'll just stay out of things.

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              • KingHippo
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                #197
                Originally posted by AKAcronym
                Don't think you realize your inconsistencies but I'll just stay out of things.
                So typical.

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                • AKAcronym
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by KingHippo
                  So typical.
                  You know me, just...so...typical...

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                  • rickJen
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by KingHippo
                    There are a lot of legitimate reasons to hate Golovkin. What I hate the most about him is his unwillingness to fight outside of his division. Most of the people I rooted for in my life are multiple division champs, unless they're heavyweights. I also hate how risk averse he is and how he's always looking for an advantage, like when he tried to drain Ward to 164 instead of directly ducking him and would't even give Kell Brook a catch weight when they fought.

                    I hate how overrated he is as well. Only looked dominant because of the trash opposition he's faced. He was barely able to sc**** by a non p4p fighter in Jacobs and a smaller fighter facing his first actual middleweight in Canelo. And then there's the fans, easily the most biased, hypocritical, insecure and ignorant fanbase to ever curse the sport.

                    White fighters like Usyk who completely picked apart elite competition and Lomachenko who are always up for a challenge are the types I respect. Golovkin is, and will always be, an overrated two faced camping b1tch in my book.
                    Doe why don't you just say you hate him because he's not black?
                    Effing fake fan.

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                    • KingHippo
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by genrick
                      Doe why don't you just say you hate him because he's not black?
                      Effing fake fan.
                      Proving my point once again.

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