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  • DreamFighter
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    #81
    Originally posted by animelive
    Everyone is a contender by definition to champions with multiple belts. Being pedantic is of no use.
    whats wrong with you? Are you faking being ****** on purpose?

    defences against contenders arent superstar fights. SUperstars fights are when the elite boys or above go H2H eg canelo GGG, or .Hagler Hearns

    But kell brook jojo dan is not a superstar fight!

    Superstar is a tier above a title defence.

    koing vanes is not a superstar fight you clown.
    Last edited by DreamFighter; 06-18-2018, 04:39 AM.

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    • animelive
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      #82
      Originally posted by DreamFighter
      whats wrong with you?

      defences against contenders arent superstar fights. SUperstars fights are when the elite boys go H2H eg canelo GGG.

      Superstar is a tier above a title defence.

      koing vanes is not a superstar fight you clown.
      So title defenses always includes only one elite fighter and one bum and can never have two elite fighters duking it out? If Canelo-GGG which exceeded a revenue of 100 million is your minimum criteria for a superstar fight, then the world has not seen many superstar fights by your standards.

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      • stealthradon
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        #83
        Originally posted by DreamFighter
        wiki -

        Rank Name Title Reign Title Recognition Successful Defenses
        1. United States Bernard Hopkins 10 years, 2 months, 18 days IBF, WBA, WBC, WBO 20
        2. United States Tommy Ryan 8 years, 7 months, 4 days World 4
        3. Kazakhstan Gennady Golovkin 4 years, 2 months and 7 days WBA (Super), IBF, WBC 10
        4. United States Tony Zale 6 years, 11 months, 24 days NBA (current WBA) 4
        5. Argentina Carlos Monzon 6 years, 9 months, 9 days WBA, WBC 14
        6. United States Marvelous Marvin Hagler 6 years, 7 months, 10 days WBC, WBA, IBF 12
        7. Republic of Ireland Jack (Nonpareil) Dempsey 6 years, 6 months, 15 days World 3
        8. Germany Felix Sturm 5 years, 4 months, 4 days WBA (Super) 12
        9. United Kingdom Bob Fitzsimmons 3 years, 8 months, 12 days World 1
        10. Germany Arthur Abraham 3 years, 7 months, 2 days IBF 11
        Okay, so you meant Wikipedia. Not just unnamed wiki.

        But here it says 18.
        Right now it says 20.

        You do know that Wikipedia isn't a source in and off itself, right?
        As you can see in the history section of that everyone is able to edit this.


        So your 10 hinges on the fact that someone thought it was so.

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        • stealthradon
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          #84
          Originally posted by DreamFighter
          he got the actual title just before the geale fight.

          one body cannot award the world title to 2 people..since theres only one world.

          There is one europe, not 2 europes.
          The is one USA, not 2 USAs.
          There is one Britain, not two Britains.

          Once you offer evidence that theres more than 1 world, we can accept what you say that there are 2 world titles. please begin your proof now.
          Since you already linked to Wikipedia as a source, you should accept this.


          Gennady Golovkin – Super champion (Regular champ promoted) June 3, 2014 – present
          Ryota Murata – Regular champion October 22, 2017 - present

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          • BO$$NELO
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            #85
            Originally posted by animelive
            I'm not sure if boxers are expected to be gods or something. History looks at context. The only possible dent in GGG's resume is the absence of the Ward fight.
            Gennady drug Kell Brook up to 160 instead of CW of 157

            Gennady refused CW of 157 with Canelo when Canelo fought at JMW

            Gennady retracted Andre Ward challenge after it was accepted

            Gennady fought Vanes instead of other available (and willing) champion level opposition (Andrade and Dervenchenko)

            Gennady never fought at more than 1 weight class

            Gennadys best two performances were controversial. A draw or loss against Danny Jacobs can legitimately be made. A flat out loss to Canelo (instead of the draw) can legitimately be made.

            40 professional fights. 5 past/present/future champion opponents and 1 of them was a 147 fighter at 160.

            Could go on and on...very average "legacy". Definitely not a cab driver tho since hes beaten so many

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            • animelive
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              #86
              Originally posted by BO$$NELO
              Gennady drug Kell Brook up to 160 instead of CW of 157

              Gennady refused CW of 157 with Canelo when Canelo fought at JMW

              Gennady retracted Andre Ward challenge after it was accepted

              Gennady fought Vanes instead of other available (and willing) champion level opposition (Andrade and Dervenchenko)

              Gennady never fought at more than 1 weight class

              Gennadys best two performances were controversial. A draw or loss against Danny Jacobs can legitimately be made. A flat out loss to Canelo (instead of the draw) can legitimately be made.

              40 professional fights. 5 past/present/future champion opponents and 1 of them was a 147 fighter at 160.

              Could go on and on...very average "legacy". Definitely not a cab driver tho since hes beaten so many
              You can write like that about most boxers.

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              • Fanofreason
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                #87
                GGG will always be remembered as a middleweight champ they fought an average Ww. He has no legacy.

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                • DreamFighter
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by animelive
                  So title defenses always includes only one elite fighter and one bum and can never have two elite fighters duking it out? If Canelo-GGG which exceeded a revenue of 100 million is your minimum criteria for a superstar fight, then the world has not seen many superstar fights by your standards.
                  plenty of elites, hofers and atgs have gone H2H.

                  stop talking shyt everytime you reply, and talk to me!

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                  • DreamFighter
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by stealthradon
                    Since you already linked to Wikipedia as a source, you should accept this.


                    Gennady Golovkin – Super champion (Regular champ promoted) June 3, 2014 – present
                    Ryota Murata – Regular champion October 22, 2017 - present
                    yeh hes champ from 2014 thats what i been saying.

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                    • DreamFighter
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by stealthradon
                      Okay, so you meant Wikipedia. Not just unnamed wiki.

                      But here it says 18.
                      Right now it says 20.

                      You do know that Wikipedia isn't a source in and off itself, right?
                      As you can see in the history section of that everyone is able to edit this.


                      So your 10 hinges on the fact that someone thought it was so.
                      wow you edited wiki just to prove me wrong, bravo.
                      and even pretended you didnt know wiki meant wikipedia.

                      u class act.

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