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  • Oldub
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    #31
    Have to 100% disagree. He's not even close to a household name. Huge Spence and bud fan but neither are big draws yet.

    Originally posted by MASTERBX
    Is Errol Spence Jr. Clean cut kid no outside the ring problems,
    has NOT ducked any fighter because they "run" or fight in a
    "boring" style, and is the most sincere boxer to date!
    Getting suspended because you are a POS and cheated
    the sport NOT this kid!

    MOST AMERICANS can relate to him! All around good kid!

    We struck gold with this one ladies and Gentlemen.

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    • R_Walken
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      #32
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      The IBF has a rulebook and everyone has to abide by that rulebook. That's the way a legit sport should work.

      Having different rules for different fighters and different promoters is just chaos. The only reason to do that is to leave the door open for corruption...which is exactly why the big promoters steer their guys away from the IBF to the WBC/WBA/WBO.
      Every sport has different rules for different players was Jordan treated the same as Blue Edwards was Kobe treated the same as Shawn Bradley ? Is it fair ? F.uck no but that’s sports they cater to the $ makers why should boxing be different

      Yeah that’s great in theory but when your rule book creates a system that far too often gives Mando positions to fighters that don’t deserve it or strip Champions for reasons that don’t enhance the sport. Maybe it’s time to change or revise some of Your rules to actually
      Benefit the sport and you can strictly enforce but at the same time you can attract more top fighters to be ranked in your organization

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        #33
        Originally posted by R_Walken
        Every sport has different rules for different players was Jordan treated the same as Blue Edwards was Kobe treated the same as Shawn Bradley ? Is it fair ? F.uck no but that’s sports they cater to the $ makers why should boxing be different

        Yeah that’s great in theory but when your rule book creates a system that far too often gives Mando positions to fighters that don’t deserve it or strip Champions for reasons that don’t enhance the sport. Maybe it’s time to change or revise some of Your rules to actually
        Benefit the sport and you can strictly enforce but at the same time you can attract more top fighters to be ranked in your organization
        The system gives mando positions to the fighters that actually want to play by it's rules.

        If you were to force ALL fighters to play by those rules then you would get higher quality mandos.

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          #34
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          The system gives mando positions to the fighters that actually want to play by it's rules.

          If you were to force ALL fighters to play by those rules then you would get higher quality mandos.
          Yes your right but that will never happen l. The world isn’t fair or perfect

          And the only reason the IBF is so strict is because they were caught being dirty as f.uck not to long ago so this strict play by the rules
          Righteousness isn’t because done out of what ls best for the sport it’s to help erase some of the stench off them

          But in no way should a fighter of Ocampos level and resume be ranked high enough for a World Title and if a fighter of Ocampos quality is the best you can rank it should tell you something. The fact the scrubs keeps getting Mando shots should tell the organization to revise some rules to attract some higher quality fighters

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          • R_Walken
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            #35
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            The system gives mando positions to the fighters that actually want to play by it's rules.

            If you were to force ALL fighters to play by those rules then you would get higher quality mandos.
            Can you imagine if Mayweather held the IBF and every year or so had to fight a fighter on Ocampos level l. Shi.t give me the WBC any day that allows the elite name brand talent to make big fights and not fight scrubs just so they can be sticklers and not enhance the sport

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            • abracada
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              #36
              Originally posted by MASTERBX
              Is Errol Spence Jr. Clean cut kid no outside the ring problems,
              has NOT ducked any fighter because they "run" or fight in a
              "boring" style, and is the most sincere boxer to date!
              Getting suspended because you are a POS and cheated
              the sport NOT this kid!

              MOST AMERICANS can relate to him! All around good kid!

              We struck gold with this one ladies and Gentlemen.
              Think Anthony Johnson also ticks those boxes but AJ is a bigger draw

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                #37
                Originally posted by R_Walken
                Yes your right but that will never happen l. The world isn’t fair or perfect
                Well, if we are talking about how it's time to change or revise things then why not start by making all boxers fight under only one sanctioning body?

                That would be a positive for the sport. Asking the IBF to become more like the WBC/WBA/WBO would be a negative.

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                • R_Walken
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Well, if we are talking about how it's time to change or revise things then why not start by making all boxers fight under only one sanctioning body?

                  That would be a positive for the sport. Asking the IBF to become more like the WBC/WBA/WBO would be a negative.
                  I agree with you obviously 1 strap would be ideal , but probably never a reality it would eliminate these Wack a.ss mandos

                  And while all 3 major straps have positives and negatives. I think it’s be best if they had rules that were strictly followed but allowed some wiggle room for the champs so there wouldn’t be stripping Golovkin because he didn’t want to Fight Devrechenko when pursuing a Canelo rematch or Stripping Fury when he choose to fight a rematch with Klit instead of fighting his no name Mando. Both those instances the fighter and real Champion of the division was going after a bigger better fight which draws fans /eyeballs and $ to the sport and the IBF stripped them because they had to follow their wa.ck rules to the T

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                  • MASTERBX
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by abracada
                    Think Anthony Johnson also ticks those boxes but AJ is a bigger draw
                    NOT in AMERICA!

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                    • abracada
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MASTERBX
                      NOT in AMERICA!
                      Not relevant as Johnson is the new face of boxing... globally

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