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  • Neuraxis
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    #101
    Originally posted by theironone
    Sanders beat him cos he thought he would walk through him, not mentally ready for the fight and weak chin got him beat.
    Brewster was another so called gimme, he dominates for a few rounds then gets stopped again, again not mentally ready for the fight he was in and weak chin, ( oh **** sorry that was the drugs!!!) now after being stopped 3 times out of 3 losses and two recently and early i'd say that some of his weaknesses are chin, lack of mental toughness and most obvious to me a huge lack of confidence in his own abilty to take a shot.
    You think when manny's telling him to do train a certain way if he didn't feel comfortable with it he'd allow it to continue??? Would you!
    Come on man you got to be a fool to allow that.
    So again i'd say manny is only a very minor influence, i'd say it's down to him being exposed more as a fighter rather than let's all blame Steward
    Actually the Brewster fight was more stamina then chin. If his chin was the issue for that fight shouldn't he have gone down? Have you seen the Nicholson fight? I'm guessing no.

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    • Dr Cynical
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      #102
      Originally posted by explosivo420sd
      How do you know that? How can you say that Tyson would knock him out? For all you know Booker has the best chin this world has ever seen.
      If you really believe that, you're in serious need of a helmet.
      As I previously stated, Booker is a bum who fought lesser bums to gain an "undefeated" status.
      However, this unskilled, powerless, overweight bum was able to go the full 12 with the same guy many people say deserves credit for being the next great HW.
      Give me a ****ing break.

      Take a look at Booker's record and look at the records of the guys he beat.
      Booker has no chin, it's just that Toney had no power in that match.
      Current Tyson could take out Booker easily.
      In fact, Booker should be Tyson's "comeback" fight.

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      • Dr Cynical
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        #103
        Originally posted by explosivo420sd
        So you do what you do just to be a ****. I figured that was the case.

        You cant deny Jones talent. Maybe its slipping away but the man has done a lot.
        He's also said alot, ducked alot, and wasted alot.
        Call me what you will for not being a RJJ ****sucker, but I will stick to my opinions.

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        • Dr Cynical
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          #104
          Originally posted by explosivo420sd
          I dont agree that he should have looked better. I personally dont think there is much room to look better. He dominated the guy for the full 12 rounds in his first fight coming off an injury. I thought he did a great job and I give him credit.

          What kind of comment is that "he hurt himself with a bum"? Comon, even you know thats lame. He hurt himself becuase he hit the poor guy so many god damn times!!!
          For a guy who so many get on their knees to blow/praise, he should have looked alot better against that bum Booker.
          It took Toney till the 8th round to get Booker to take a knee.
          Even after that, Toney couldn't finish off Booker or hurt him anymore than he already did.

          As for your second comment.
          I think the guys below your post summed it up quite nicely.

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          • Explosivo
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            #105
            Originally posted by Dr_Cynical
            If you really believe that, you're in serious need of a helmet.
            As I previously stated, Booker is a bum who fought lesser bums to gain an "undefeated" status.
            However, this unskilled, powerless, overweight bum was able to go the full 12 with the same guy many people say deserves credit for being the next great HW.
            Give me a ****ing break.

            Take a look at Booker's record and look at the records of the guys he beat.
            Booker has no chin, it's just that Toney had no power in that match.
            Current Tyson could take out Booker easily.
            In fact, Booker should be Tyson's "comeback" fight.
            If he fought bums or not, that doesnt matter to me. Thats irrelevant to what my argument is.
            Im not saying Tyson could or could not Ko Booker. I dont say that because no one has knocked him out before. If someone had knocked him out I would have something to compare it to. I guess I dont just jump to conclusions as easily as you do. Maybe Tyson could KO Booker...he has lots of power, but I dont know because they havent fought and Bookers never been KOed. I know Booker took Toneys punched for 12 rds, so he has a pretty good chin.

            I dont think its a bad idea for Tyson to fight Booker in his next fight if there is one.

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            • Explosivo
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              #106
              Originally posted by Dr_Cynical
              For a guy who so many get on their knees to blow/praise, he should have looked alot better against that bum Booker.
              It took Toney till the 8th round to get Booker to take a knee.
              Even after that, Toney couldn't finish off Booker or hurt him anymore than he already did.

              As for your second comment.
              I think the guys below your post summed it up quite nicely.
              Damn, I guess Toney just has to come out and KO everyone he fights in the first round. 12 rounds of pure domination after a serious injury isnt good enough for you. You certainly set a high standard.

              Im curious of your feelings on Wlad's last fight. what do you think about him?

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              • Dr Cynical
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                #107
                Originally posted by explosivo420sd
                If he fought bums or not, that doesnt matter to me. Thats irrelevant to what my argument is.
                Im not saying Tyson could or could not Ko Booker. I dont say that because no one has knocked him out before. If someone had knocked him out I would have something to compare it to. I guess I dont just jump to conclusions as easily as you do. Maybe Tyson could KO Booker...he has lots of power, but I dont know because they havent fought and Bookers never been KOed. I know Booker took Toneys punched for 12 rds, so he has a pretty good chin.

                I dont think its a bad idea for Tyson to fight Booker in his next fight if there is one.
                You act as if because of Booker's "undefeated" record and his ability to go 12 rounds with Toney that he has some kind of superman chin.

                I stated why he was "undefeated" and we all know Toney had no power in that match.
                So that settles why he was able to go the full 12 with Toney.

                He has no chin and he will get KTFO if he goes against Tyson.

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                • Dr Cynical
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by explosivo420sd
                  Damn, I guess Toney just has to come out and KO everyone he fights in the first round. 12 rounds of pure domination after a serious injury isnt good enough for you. You certainly set a high standard.

                  Im curious of your feelings on Wlad's last fight. what do you think about him?
                  No, he doesn't have to KO everyone in the first round.
                  He needs to shut the **** up and actually prove he's near as good as everyone praises him to be.
                  Give him whatever excuse you want or that he said, but there was no excuse that a guy who so many people verbally fellate should have gone 12 rounds with a fat, unskilled, powerless bum.

                  Plus, Toney looked tired in the middle of the fight and even after he got Booker to take a knee in the 8th, he couldn't hurt him anymore or take him out.
                  Which means Toney is average or below average.

                  I didn't see Wlad's fight so I cannot comment on it.

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                  • Explosivo
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Dr_Cynical
                    No, he doesn't have to KO everyone in the first round.
                    He needs to shut the **** up and actually prove he's near as good as everyone praises him to be.
                    Give him whatever excuse you want or that he said, but there was no excuse that a guy who so many people verbally fellate should have gone 12 rounds with a fat, unskilled, powerless bum.

                    Plus, Toney looked tired in the middle of the fight and even after he got Booker to take a knee in the 8th, he couldn't hurt him anymore or take him out.
                    Which means Toney is average or below average.

                    I didn't see Wlad's fight so I cannot comment on it.
                    Well Im giving James some credit becuse I thought he looked good in that fight.

                    Did you see the Trinidad fight?

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                    • Dr Cynical
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by explosivo420sd
                      Well Im giving James some credit becuse I thought he looked good in that fight.

                      Did you see the Trinidad fight?
                      I'll give Toney credit for proving me wrong.
                      I thought he was going to come in looking like Butterbean and pass out in the first round.

                      Unfortunately, no.
                      I saw clips of it on ESPN and am going to watch it this Saturday.
                      Hopefully it doesn't come on while I'm working.

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