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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Charlo-Hurd, Crawford-Spence, Golovkin

    The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling such topics as Terence Crawford vs. Errol Spence, Jarrett Hurd vs. Jermell Charlo, Mikey Garcia vs. Robert Easter, Tank Davis vs. Jamel Herring and much more.
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  • Rip Chudd
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    Great mailbag as usual. Good to see Bread giving Inoue his props

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    • aboutfkntime
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      3 division champ..... so what, who cares ?

      like I always said, nothing else matters except..... WHO did you beat, with consideration given to when/how..... ..... especially in this day and age

      the titles that Fitzsimmons won spanned REAL divisions

      using that methodology is the ONLY way to cross-compare era's..... and that methodology becomes more important/relevant as the standards continue to change/evolve..... (drop, if you are honest about it..... what with 17 divisions today and about 80 titles available)

      besides, how many divisions you represented is NOT a valid measurement for greatness..... Willie Pep is greater than MOST of the guys bread mentioned, and he only ever fought in 1 division..... as did many great heavyweights

      multi-divisional fighters mostly comes down to body-type/metabolism/size

      good work bread, a great read

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        #4
        why no love for my boy Carpentier who was a fkn BEAST from middleweight to heavyweight?

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        • OnePunch
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          #5
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime

          besides, how many divisions you represented is NOT a valid measurement for greatness..... Willie Pep is greater than MOST of the guys bread mentioned, and he only ever fought in 1 division..... as did many great heavyweights

          multi-divisional fighters mostly comes down to body-type/metabolism/size

          good work bread, a great read
          I'll have to remember this the next time you start whining about how GGG never moved up.......

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          • aboutfkntime
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            #6
            Originally posted by OnePunch
            I'll have to remember this the next time you start whining about how GGG never moved up.......


            but, I have never whined about Golovkin not moving up

            I have no problem with him remaining at middleweight

            " WHO did he beat, with consideration given to when/how ? "

            works in EVERY era, with EVERY fighter..... EVERY single time

            only one problem..... you MUST know your ****, and you MUST have done your homework.....

            because, that system relies upon you knowing the boxing landscape at that point in time..... the key is knowing/understanding the opponents just as well as the fighter you are evaluating..... so accurate/relevant thoughts on that matter mostly come from hardcore professionals who dedicate a LOT of time to research

            not for the average fan, and DEFINITELY not for the casuals

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            • Kiowhatta
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              #7
              Kostya Tzsyu was a worthy mention. Undisputed Jr Welterweight champion. Along with Naseem Hamed.

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              • Boxing Logic
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                #8
                Stop overhyping Tank Davis. He punches like a combination of Tyson and Judah? Wtf does that even mean? This 130 guy punches like Tyson? Except with the explosiveness of Judah? Man this guy must be the best fighter of all time. Whoops I forget Fonseca beat him and only was robbed of the official win by a likely corrupt letting Tank do a Golata on him.

                You know who Tank actually punches like? He punches like Lomachenko, just with less skill and half the stamina, and he has to load up on his punches way more to create that power, whereas Loma does what he does much more naturally, and that's another reason why Tank runs out of energy much faster than Loma.

                You will see if Loma ever fights Pedraza, Tank doesn't punch much harder than Lomachenko if at all. Now is Loma an underrated puncher? Yes, but I wouldn't compare his power to Mike Tyson's, lol. Damn.

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                • Rockybigblower
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  why no love for my boy Carpentier who was a fkn BEAST from middleweight to heavyweight?
                  There was no mention of ODLH either. I'm sure it's just an oversight.

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                  • Bronx2245
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                    "I think Spence hits harder but as you know that doesn’t mean as much as to who takes the better punch. Crawford is faster and quicker. Both can be hit but Crawford is better defensively and he boxes a little bit better. Spence is as strong as a bull and his body work is just debilitating. Spence is the bigger man naturally and seems to have more physicality...

                    Kell Brook may be the best literal opponent that either has faced. I think Brook would defeat everyone Crawford fought in a boxing ring." - Breadman

                    Great analysis, but I would add that Spence took big shots from both Kell Brook and Lamont Peterson, and walked through them, while continuing his destruction of both opponents body and head! I think Lamont Peterson is also a much better fighter than Jeff Horn! I agree Crawford has faced more styles, but he hasn't faced better opponents at 147...yet! It's still a 50/50 fight, and it's definitely a historic WW fight in the making, but I think Crawford needs more experience @ 147, and I would pick Spence to win if they both fought...TODAY!

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