Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Charlo-Hurd, Crawford-Spence, Golovkin

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  • StephenM
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    #11
    On the mailbag circuit I would say that Breadman is P4P #1.

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    • kafkod
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      #12
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      but, I have never whined about Golovkin not moving up

      I have no problem with him remaining at middleweight

      " WHO did he beat, with consideration given to when/how ? "

      works in EVERY era, with EVERY fighter..... EVERY single time

      only one problem..... you MUST know your ****, and you MUST have done your homework.....

      because, that system relies upon you knowing the boxing landscape at that point in time..... the key is knowing/understanding the opponents just as well as the fighter you are evaluating..... so accurate/relevant thoughts on that matter mostly come from hardcore professionals who dedicate a LOT of time to research

      not for the average fan, and DEFINITELY not for the casuals
      Breadman certainly knows his shit regarding the boxing landscape in the present era. He seems to get asked about GGG in just about every mailbag I've seen, and never has anything but the highest praise for him.

      You should remember that next time you get the urge to post ridiculous shite about Golovkin being gifted his world titles and ducking Ward, Lara, Mora, Cotto at 154, Canelo at 155 , etc, etc ...

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        #13
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        "I think Spence hits harder but as you know that doesn’t mean as much as to who takes the better punch. Crawford is faster and quicker. Both can be hit but Crawford is better defensively and he boxes a little bit better. Spence is as strong as a bull and his body work is just debilitating. Spence is the bigger man naturally and seems to have more physicality...

        Kell Brook may be the best literal opponent that either has faced. I think Brook would defeat everyone Crawford fought in a boxing ring." - Breadman

        Great analysis, but I would add that Spence took big shots from both Kell Brook and Lamont Peterson, and walked through them, while continuing his destruction of both opponents body and head! I think Lamont Peterson is also a much better fighter than Jeff Horn! I agree Crawford has faced more styles, but he hasn't faced better opponents at 147...yet! It's still a 50/50 fight, and it's definitely a historic WW fight in the making, but I think Crawford needs more experience @ 147, and I would pick Spence to win if they both fought...TODAY!


        I was kinda thinking that way myself, you just talked me into it

        I think you're right..... but I would not bet 1 single dollar on that fight when it happens..... which will likely be in 2-3 years

        Spence is an animal... Crawford needs more seasoning at welter

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          #14
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Breadman certainly knows his shit regarding the boxing landscape in the present era. He seems to get asked about GGG in just about every mailbag I've seen, and never has anything but the highest praise for him.

          You should remember that next time you get the urge to post ridiculous shite about Golovkin being gifted his world titles and ducking Ward, Lara, Mora, Cotto at 154, Canelo at 155 , etc, etc ...


          I will ALWAYS consider breads opinion

          Golovkin was gifted his world titles..... and he ducked Ward, Lara, Mora, Cotto, Canelo at 155, Saunders, Derevy, etc

          Golovkin is not the only thing bread got wrong

          NOBODY, in their right mind..... including bread..... can justify the ridiculous excuses they used to avoid the mover/spoilers..... and nobody from this planet would even attempt to justify why Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... especially when 6 months later Golovkin stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody will step up lol

          I think I paid a lot more attention to Golovkin's early shenanigans than bread did..... hence I noticed that his list of excuses were absurd/unjustifiable, and that they were beginning to pile up

          not sure why bread cannot see whats up with Team Bullshht ?

          they have taken the easy path at EVERY opportunity..... and as I said earlier, NOBODY can justify those shameful excuses

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            #15
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            I will ALWAYS consider breads opinion

            Golovkin was gifted his world titles..... and he ducked Ward, Lara, Mora, Cotto, Canelo at 155, Saunders, Derevy, etc

            Golovkin is not the only thing bread got wrong

            NOBODY, in their right mind..... including bread..... can justify the ridiculous excuses they used to avoid the mover/spoilers..... and nobody from this planet would even attempt to justify why Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... especially when 6 months later Golovkin stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody will step up lol

            I think I paid a lot more attention to Golovkin's early shenanigans than bread did..... hence I noticed that his list of excuses were absurd/unjustifiable, and that they were beginning to pile up

            not sure why bread cannot see whats up with Team Bullshht ?

            they have taken the easy path at EVERY opportunity..... and as I said earlier, NOBODY can justify those shameful excuses
            Yeah .. strange that innit.

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              #16
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              I was kinda thinking that way myself, you just talked me into it

              I think you're right..... but I would not bet 1 single dollar on that fight when it happens..... which will likely be in 2-3 years

              Spence is an animal... Crawford needs more seasoning at welter
              2-3 years is unacceptable! If Spence handles his biz tonight, he should face the winner of Garcia vs. Porter. Crawford is most likely fighting Benavidez, because we know how Bob gets down! If Spence and Crawford get wins, and Thurman ain't ready for that smoke by then, then Spence has to pursue Crawford! He can't wait on Thurman forever!

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                #17
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                2-3 years is unacceptable! If Spence handles his biz tonight, he should face the winner of Garcia vs. Porter. Crawford is most likely fighting Benavidez, because we know how Bob gets down! If Spence and Crawford get wins, and Thurman ain't ready for that smoke by then, then Spence has to pursue Crawford! He can't wait on Thurman forever!


                not arguing..... but, I bet that fight does not happen in the next 2 years

                and to a certain extent I can understand why

                that could be a HUGE match-up between two undefeated champions..... but it would be even bigger if those guys were both superstars

                similar to Joshua/Wilder

                it could depend on how long Spence intends to stay at 147

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