Who's fault is it GGG got stripped by IBF

[j0zef]

Wut the eff!?!!?!?!

Are you sh^tting me? I dig you, I respect you, I give your takes full regard if I agree or disagree with you, but how the f#ck is GGG f#cking up his IBF belt Canelo's fault or more Canelo's fault as you put it?

The IBF said what was up. GGG nodded his head. GGG fought a dumb ass fight with Vanes over Derevyanchenko (on May 5 or at some future date cuz I wouldn't necessarily expect or recommend fighting a serious guy like him on short notice).

Canelo effed up his sh^t. But GGG doubled down on effing up his own sh^t if you ask me. Both sides f#cked sh^t up for themselves.

There is not a single boxer in the world who would fight a dangerous mandatory, or non mandatory even, for peanuts, if that risks a huge, multi million ppv event.

Not. A. Single. One.

It was a stay busy fight not to waste the camp on short notice. The end.

[Eff Pandas]

No they said they would give him a voluntary for My 5th IF!!!! HE AGREED IN WRITING TO FIGHT HIS MANDO NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!HE DID NOT DO THAT!!!!!!!!

Oh yea good point.

Personally as a GGG fan I'd have preferred he fight Derevyanchenko in late May, June or early July & forgo the May 5 date.

BUT the IBF gave him the chance to schedule the fight with Derevyanchenko AFTER he fought Vanes within a certain amount of days (he had 30 days iirc, but anyone correct me if it was shorter or longer). GGG did not do that. GGG did not get to keep his title lol.

This all comes down to GGG dropping the ball. Canelo ain't have sh^t to do with this.

[BoxingTech718]

It really doesn’t matter. Whoever it is won’t be able to hold on to it. Unless they duck GGG for the next couple of years.

[Eff Pandas]

There is not a single boxer in the world who would fight a dangerous mandatory, or non mandatory even, for peanuts, if that risks a huge, multi million ppv event.

Not. A. Single. One.

It was a stay busy fight not to waste the camp on short notice. The end.

He didn't have to fight him on short notice.

He coulda pushed back the May 5 date.' GGG didn't do that.

Or the IBF gave him a second chance & 30(?) days to schedule a fight with Derevyanchenko. GGG didn't do that.

Fair play on your stance. But idk how that make it Canelo's fault. The fault lies firmly in the hands of GGG & his team. They didn't pursue a later date with Derevyanchenko. They didn't pursue a date with Derevyanchenko after the fight with Vanes like they said they would do.

This is insanity you or anyone else thinks this specific situation has a f#cking thing to do with Canelo.

[Eff Pandas]

It really doesn’t matter. Whoever it is won’t be able to hold on to it. Unless they duck GGG for the next couple of years.

Of course it matters. It helps me spot the fanboys & so biased they might be borderline ******ed fans.

[Vlad_]

GGG was extremely traumatized by Derev’s win over 22-22 Dashon...

Therefore he immediately ducked the real threat Derevyanchenko, and went on to cherry pick Canelo.

[Eff Pandas]

How can he fight sergey in august when he had plans to fight canelo in september?

He shoulda figured that out before all these bad decisions.

To me you push back the May 5 date & fight Derevyanchenko vs fight Vanes & then agree to fight Derevyanchenko next while knowing you likely will be fighting Canelo in September.

So again the fault lies with GGG & his team for not thinking this through. There were many ways to play this:

Fight Derevyanchenko on May 5 & fight Canelo in Sept.
Fight Vanes on May 5, fight Derevyanchenko in June/July & hope you don't get too ****** up to fight Canelo in Sept.
Or do the above with hopes we can push back the Canelo rematch to Nov. maybe or even next May

But regardless what the options were their were options & GGG & his team choose their preferred option which lost him his title.

Fair or unfair, great or not so great options+ its on GGG not Canelo.

[Larry the boss]

Oh yea good point.

Personally as a GGG fan I'd have preferred he fight Derevyanchenko in late May, June or early July & forgo the May 5 date.

BUT the IBF gave him the chance to schedule the fight with Derevyanchenko AFTER he fought Vanes within a certain amount of days (he had 30 days iirc, but anyone correct me if it was shorter or longer). GGG did not do that. GGG did not get to keep his title lol.

This all comes down to GGG dropping the ball. Canelo ain't have sh^t to do with this.

The May 5th date did not even have to happen, He went for the money thinking he was big enough to carry the date and failed on his gamble..He literally screwed himself..BUT now it seems he has a chance to to make it all right

[j0zef]

He didn't have to fight him on short notice.

He coulda pushed back the May 5 date.' GGG didn't do that.

Or the IBF gave him a second chance & 30(?) days to schedule a fight with Derevyanchenko. GGG didn't do that.

Fair play on your stance. But idk how that make it Canelo's fault. The fault lies firmly in the hands of GGG & his team. They didn't pursue a later date with Derevyanchenko. They didn't pursue a date with Derevyanchenko after the fight with Vanes like they said they would do.

This is insanity you or anyone else thinks this specific situation has a f#cking thing to do with Canelo.

Pushing back the fight is very rarely an option. You lose the hbo date, the venue, and the camp timing. It very very very rarely happens.

It still all boils down to vanes being a stay busy fight not to risk a huge fight against a career rival. The delay was caused by Canelo.

If you go back far enough to the root cause, it's much more Canelo than Golovkin.

The bigger cause is ibf being robots, but given these choices, Golovkins fate was sealed. Just like fury vs Wlad in the rematch.

[Eff Pandas]

Pushing back the fight is very rarely an option. You lose the hbo date, the venue, and the camp timing. It very very very rarely happens.

It still all boils down to vanes being a stay busy fight not to risk a huge fight against a career rival. The delay was caused by Canelo.

If you go back far enough to the root cause, it's much more Canelo than Golovkin.

The bigger cause is ibf being robots, but given these choices, Golovkins fate was sealed. Just like fury vs Wlad in the rematch.

Man you are on some victim sh^t I don't even get.

So if you lose your job & your gf/wife cheats on you then its your fault she got some new **** cuz you lost your job is what you are telling me. You gave her no choice but to jump on some new **** lol. She's innocent or at a minimum not as at fault as you are for her cheating?