Comments Thread For: Ward: What More Does Crawford Have to Do to Be P4P Number 1?

[methodcal]

He is arguably not even the top guy at 147. How about he establishes that and we'll talk?

I love TC but we gotta chill. Not ****ting on Joe Horn but he should never had been in there in the first place. Errol Spence is the top dog no Doubt. TC has to fight some Al fighters cause Benevidez looks likely and those fights don't really brings out The Best but **** lol I put him 2nd after one fight. They have to fight sometime next year or 2020 for sure.

[methodcal]

I think that's the tip of the iceberg there. You're blocked. I just can't be reading posts and people this ******.

Peace.

Lmfao I'm not the biggest Ggg fan but well done sir!! Lmfao. Whoa!

[Muz]

Ward JUST ADDMITTED BY HIS OWN CRITERIA THAT LOMACHENKO IS THE POUND FOR POUND BEST....This article is some major biased pro black BS trying to give more hopeless people hope.sad.

[Illmatic94]

Beating bum ass Horn not gonna cut it.. sorrry.

Postol, Diaz, Indongo, Burns and Gamboa were all better wins than Horn.

sht even Hank Lundy is better than Horn.

[Boxing Logic]

LOL. Ward is confusing Crawford with Lomachenko. "He’s a three-division world champion and, if I’m not mistaken, if I read it properly, he’s done it with the least amount of fights."

I agree with Ward for once. Loma is P4P #1. Ward also said beating the best competition, which again refers to Loma, not Crawford. GRJ, Linares, Rigo, and Walters are all better than anyone Crawford has fought. That's FOUR top wins ahead of Crawford in terms of resume, not even just 1 or 2 (which would still be significant). So Loma isn't just ahead of Crawford, he's lapped Crawford. Crawford needs to actually start fighting top guys for a change and string together 4 wins against top guys, then he can at least say he's tied with Loma, although even then, Loma just beat a way bigger opponent with elite speed and reach, and Crawford still isn't facing bigger guys. They're both champs in their 3rd weight class but Crawford started artificially low, Loma didn't. To truly match Loma going to 135, Crawford really needs to fight at 154 at minimum, and if Loma fights and beats Mikey who is WAYYY bigger, Crawford would need to fight a prime top 5 P4P middleweight or super middleweight to match that.

That might seem crazy to people, but it's not a knock on Crawford, it just exemplifies how difficult what Lomachenko has been doing is, and how crazy the idea of Loma-Garcia is and what an insane win that would be if Loma can pull it off. If Crawford wants to be #1 P4P and Loma can keep doing amazing things, then Crawford will also need to do amazing things, and beating Jeff Horn does not qualify.

Loma used to walk around below 140, but now he says he walks around at 145 pounds. Mikey Garcia was recently over 170 pounds according to the man himself. So Loma would be fighting a naturally 25 pound guy. Crawford as we know walks around at least 175 pounds, so for him to beat a naturally 25 pound bigger man, heck, it looks like I undershot it big time when I said middleweight or super middleweight. 25 pounds bigger than 175 is 200 pounds. Light heavyweights walk around at 200 pounds, sometimes less.

So if Loma beats Mikey, Crawford would honestly need to beat Dmitry Bivol, or a top light heavyweight like that, who can still make 168 healthily like Mikey can make 135. That's why I say Bivol because I think he can make 168 healthily, so he's the best comparable to Mikey, although again, I think most people have Mikey higher on their P4P list. But that's the type of challenge Crawford would have to take to match Loma challenging himself against the much bigger Garcia, IF Loma can pull it off which is a big if, and I just don't see Crawford ever going up to super middleweight seeing as how long it took him to start fighting guys his own size at 147. So, it might be time to put a lid on the Crawford P4P talk because it just does not seem like he's shooting for greatness the way Lomachenko is.

If you're willing to take the challenges to put yourself in the conversation, then why should we waste time talking about it?

[Illmatic94]

Took 11 years to figure this out? hah!

Seriously, how about Crawford beats Spence or even Thurman. He looks great I agree but until he beats either of these there will always be questions about his comp. Same as Golovkin, even though I think he did beat both Jacobs & Canelo pretty clearly. 8-4 or 7-5 if being generous.

1 - Loma
2 - Crawford
3 - Golovkin

Top 2 deserve higher marks simply 'cause they've moved up even though Golovkin has maintained his dominance for longer & never even been wobbled let alone knocked down. You know I could always argue that contenders/champs weren't willing to get in the ring against GGG when was younger, but we still can only grade on what actually has happened, not on the what if's.

There was nothing "pretty clear" about any of those fights. Unless you watch them with the lil g biased goggles and give him every single questionable/swing round.

Jacobs beat him close IMO. and Canelo won rounds 1-3 and 11-12 clear. thats five rounds. all he needs is two rounds in between to win 7-5 and there were plenty swing rounds in there.

[Joe Beamish]

Crawford himself said he doesn't care if he's #1 or #2, doesn't matter to him at this point.

I tend to agree. In my view, Loma and Crawford are equally deserving of this (let's face it) mythical title.

If Crawford adds a Spence or Thurman win to his resume, then he's definitely #1 in my book. Same for Loma if he gets a Garcia win.

[Muz]

Beltran was a better win than Molina. So was Diaz and so was Indongo because he held the WBA/IBF titles and was unbeaten. Burns was also a better win.

I do agree the top of Loma's resume is better though. Those 4 wins trump Bud's but people have tended to underrate the Postol and Gamboa wins. He was a 2-1 underdog against Gamboa.

Gamboa was highly overrated. Indongo just got exposed Badly as a paper champ by Prograis. Postol was an average at best In Ukraine, yet Crawford ran from him. Diaz just got exposed again.


Crawford resume is by far the worst out of any top figgter in boxing. Period

[chrisJS]

Ward JUST ADDMITTED BY HIS OWN CRITERIA THAT LOMACHENKO IS THE POUND FOR POUND BEST....This article is some major biased pro black BS trying to give more hopeless people hope.sad.

It's also possible that it's a misquote and that he is referring to Loma there or that Ward had a brain fart.

I think that's more likely than your racist views on the matter.

[Muz]

If he cleans out 147 he will be TBE! Crawford was undisputed at 140.. that made him the only number 2 to ward.. but when ward retired Crawford became number 1. I also moved Lomachenko up to number 2 when he took all my money against rigo and linares.. so I must show respect there.. now with that being said.. I still think both are very accomplished but are in very dangerous waters.. Crawford is in a deep division with some dangerous champs.. Thurman and Spence respectfully.. and Loma has to definitely keep his eye on Mikey!

Took all your money ? Is that some kind of oxymoron? See you betting against white fighters becatse you bet with emotion tells me you aren't very educated and together as a man. It reflects in your posts like you are some country field boy still clinging to the hope your race card gets you respect. Your Pathetic mindset is only surpassed by your pro black bias in boxing.