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  • If Joshua does not agree to the terms that his own team offered (including fighting in the UK), I do not see how you can call it anything other than straight-up ducking.

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    • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
      A man that accuses others of ducking him without making an offer at the time, a man that want a fight, a man that said he doesn’t care about the financials, yes so that man shouldnt worry about money when a fight like that is offered, just like a man that said give me 50m and then made excuses when that 50m was offered. Like I have said many times I would call both of them out of their words, you guys are looking to defend one and blame the other. If Wilder wanted this fight it would have happened the day Hearn offered 12.5m, Mayweather did it and went on to make more than Oscar in his career. Sometimes you got to take the shot end of the stick to enhance your legacy and career.
      No. You are defending. Mayweather did not take Oscars initial offer but he did eventually take short money, which is exactly what Wilder is doing.

      Your statements to me and others boil down to this, because Wilder attempted to get more money than the initial offer, he doesn't or disnt really want the fight. By that logic any B side that attempts to negotiate doesn't wanna fight. That sounds ludicrous.

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      • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
        No. You are defending. Mayweather did not take Oscars initial offer but he did eventually take short money, which is exactly what Wilder is doing.

        Your statements to me and others boil down to this, because Wilder attempted to get more money than the initial offer, he doesn't or disnt really want the fight. By that logic any B side that attempts to negotiate doesn't wanna fight. That sounds ludicrous.
        Am defending what? All you have done so far is defend why a fight shouldnt be taking place because of money, all I have done is tell you that money shouldn’t prevent a fight from happening, especially a fighter who claimed money wasn’t an issue. You can defend him all you want but like I said if he wanted the fight right away he would taken it like Mayweather did. In Mayweather words money wasn’t the issue, he wanted his name first done, we didn’t even discuss the money done. So yeah continue defending one side. And I would continue blaming BOTH sides.

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        • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
          Are you getting a penny from their money? If not you shouldn’t care how low the offer was. You got to take the short end of the sticks sometimes to make the bigger bucks. If you care about legacy like Wilder said then you would, Mayweather did it and it paid off.
          I'm not getting a penny of their money and neither are you.

          I'm just explaining how and why Wilder tried to maximize the purses before eventually accepting Hearn's offer.

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          • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            I'm not getting a penny of their money and neither are you.

            I'm just explaining how and why Wilder tried to maximize the purses before eventually accepting Hearn's offer.
            I couldn’t careless how they maximise their purses. You guys are so focus on money like you are getting a % out of it. You want the fight, you claim people are ducking you then you get offered the fight you take it... that’s calling their bluffs not stay silent for weeks.

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            • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
              I couldn’t careless how they maximise their purses. You guys are so focus on money like you are getting a % out of it. You want the fight, you claim people are ducking you then you get offered the fight you take it... that’s calling their bluffs not stay silent for weeks.
              You don't think its worth trying to make millions more if you can?

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              • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                You don't think its worth trying to make millions more if you can?
                If it means delaying the fight and letting Joshua escape the ducking then no. Get the fight made, call their bluffs and knock him out. Money shouldn’t be the number 1 priority, I see fighters do this all the time. Then when they get offer the fight then they want to fight over money. GGG too did that rubbish, how about take the short end of the stick, grab all the four belts and then you call the short in the HW division. It’s not like he was offered 2.5m dollars.

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                • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                  Am defending what? All you have done so far is defend why a fight shouldnt be taking place because of money, all I have done is tell you that money shouldn’t prevent a fight from happening, especially a fighter who claimed money wasn’t an issue. You can defend him all you want but like I said if he wanted the fight right away he would taken it like Mayweather did. In Mayweather words money wasn’t the issue, he wanted his name first done, we didn’t even discuss the money done. So yeah continue defending one side. And I would continue blaming BOTH sides.
                  Ur defending Joshua...indirectly. all u said was that Team Wilder wanted the fight. Let's not come up with all these alternative facts and statements so u can keep arguing. Your reasons why why his actions indicated he didn't want the fight were weak and countered. Yet you persist. Why? Because for you it's either blame both or Wilder.

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                  • Originally posted by allenfred View Post
                    Wilder has no idea where the UK is anyway. So going to England is the same as going to Vegas for the goofy frail skinny toothpick dimwitted Wilder. Joshua should win the fight at home but Wilder still has that right hand and that empty head.
                    In very much in favour of Joshua here.. but to say wilder has no idea where the UK is .. when he has literally fought in the UK before, is a real dumb statement

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                    • In other words, they got beat at the negotiation table.

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