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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #101
    Originally posted by Ray*
    If they want the fight they would have accept the fight when it got offered, another mans low ball offer is another mans payday... especially when we are not getting a penny from the “Low ball offer”
    So yeah....no. No man should accept less pay just because another man may think the pay is amazing. That's not how life or business works.

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      #102
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      They were trying to show Joshua how much money was available for the fight in the U.S.

      That's why they met his demand to give him $50 million.

      AJ said he would sign tomorrow if he got that, Team Wilder just didn't realize that he would go back on his word.
      This is irrelevant. Have already smashed Team Joshua for ducking 50m dollars.

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        #103
        Originally posted by Ray*
        This is irrelevant. Have already smashed Team Joshua for ducking 50m dollars.
        It's not irrelevant. You asked why they didn't just take the first offer made to them.

        Obviously they tried to have the fight where it could make the most money for both fighters. Only after that failed did they accept Hearn's lesser terms.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          So yeah....no. No man should accept less pay just because another man may think the pay is amazing. That's not how life or business works.
          A man that accuses others of ducking him without making an offer at the time, a man that want a fight, a man that said he doesn’t care about the financials, yes so that man shouldnt worry about money when a fight like that is offered, just like a man that said give me 50m and then made excuses when that 50m was offered. Like I have said many times I would call both of them out of their words, you guys are looking to defend one and blame the other. If Wilder wanted this fight it would have happened the day Hearn offered 12.5m, Mayweather did it and went on to make more than Oscar in his career. Sometimes you got to take the shot end of the stick to enhance your legacy and career.

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            #105
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            It's not irrelevant. You asked why they didn't just take the first offer made to them.

            Obviously they tried to have the fight where it could make the most money for both from fighters. Only after that failed did they accept Hearn's lesser terms.
            So why didn’t they take the fight? So you know they could have called Team Joshua bluff and take the fight at the first attempt?

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              #106
              Originally posted by Ray*
              So why didn’t they take the fight? So you know they could have called Team Joshua bluff and take the fight at the first attempt?
              They tried to reason with Joshua about the fight making significantly more money in Las Vegas. Even going so far as to meet his $50 million demand.

              Once they saw that there is no reasoning with them, and that they are dead set on leaving millions on the table, they finally gave up and agreed to Hearn's lesser offer.

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                #107
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                They tried to reason with Joshua about the fight making significantly more money in Las Vegas. Even going so far as to meet his $50 million demand.

                Once they saw that there is no reasoning with them, and that they are dead set on leaving millions on the table, they finally gave up and agreed to Hearn's lesser offer.
                That’s all part two. You jumping, when Wilder claimed he doesn’t care about the financials, he was being ducked and then got offered 12.5m why didn’t he call their bluff? All these 50m you are bringing up is irrelevant. Because if Wilder accept the offer that was made from the beginning we wouldn’t have all this drama. So yes am blaming both camps for this whole saga. You can defend Wilder all you want but am blaming him and Joshua.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  That’s all part two. You jumping, when Wilder claimed he doesn’t care about the financials, he was being ducked and then got offered 12.5m why didn’t he call their bluff? All these 50m you are bringing up is irrelevant. Because if Wilder accept the offer that was made from the beginning we wouldn’t have all this drama. So yes am blaming both camps for this whole saga. You can defend Wilder all you want but am blaming him and Joshua.
                  $12.5 million is a ridiculously low offer. They tried to get that raised, tried to bring the fight to where there was more money for all, but failed.

                  At that point Wilder said screw these guys. Let's just make the fight.

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                    #109
                    Wilder management was wise in going to the UK to box Josh

                    Wilder has no idea where the UK is anyway. So going to England is the same as going to Vegas for the goofy frail skinny toothpick dimwitted Wilder. Joshua should win the fight at home but Wilder still has that right hand and that empty head.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      $12.5 million is a ridiculously low offer. They tried to get that raised, tried to bring the fight to where there was more money for all, but failed.

                      At that point Wilder said screw these guys. Let's just make the fight.
                      Are you getting a penny from their money? If not you shouldn’t care how low the offer was. You got to take the short end of the sticks sometimes to make the bigger bucks. If you care about legacy like Wilder said then you would, Mayweather did it and it paid off.

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