just rewatched wilder/ortiz again for the first time since march...

[Kezzer]

holy crap...I honestly think Ortiz probably beats just about every other HW out there not named wilder

not saying definitely.....maybe Joshua beats him but maybe he doesn't.....basically just about every other HW out there gets beat by the march 2018 version of Ortiz

I'm sure most must agree

Wilder struggled to keep up with his style. But then he hasn't really had preparation as his other fights have all been garbage.

For me the following would be a good bet against Ortiz

Joshua - strong favorite
Parker - favourite
Whyte - close, ortiz maybe slight favourite
Povetkin - favourite
Fury - favourite
Wilder rematch - wilder favourite again

Beyond those six though I think Ortiz would be expected to win comfortably, but do remember other fights he has struggled with, most notably the two he went on hearns matchroom cards

[LacedUp]

There's a reason why Dillian Shyte ran far away from Ortiz once the WBC ordered them to fight.

It’s because he doesn’t have the balls to fight Ortiz!!! And if he does it’s only because he knows that Ortiz hit his peak in March 2018 and will never recover.

[ShoulderRoll]

It’s because he doesn’t have the balls to fight Ortiz!!! And if he does it’s only because he knows that Ortiz hit his peak in March 2018 and will never recover.

Shyte is a bidnessman. He doesn't want to take a loss as that would move him down the heavyweight pecking order.

It's the same reason he pulled out of fighting Pulev once that fight looked to be headed to Bulgaria.

[LacedUp]

Shyte is a bidnessman. He doesn't want to take a loss as that would move him down the heavyweight pecking order.

It's the same reason he pulled out of fighting Pulev once that fight looked to be headed to Bulgaria.

Yeah it’s true bro!! Luis Ortiz is way too dangerous and for a journeyman like Whyte! Ortiz smashes through everyone with ease, especially if he fights in March!

Pulev too. 250lbs version of Larry Holmes. In fact, some say his jab is better than Holmes and he puts in one blistering performance after the other!

Got Whyte scared to death!! Whyte is looking for easy touches like AJ or Wilder. Scared of the real champ Ortiz!!

[SUBZER0ED]

Who knows, its a difficult one to predict. The fight didn't go the way i thought it would go. I thought Ortiz would be destroyed but he did better than i thought he would, why? because Wilder allow that to happen, wilder looked like a fighter who was just loading up for one big shot, it was like watching Prince naseem towards the end of his career, he knows he has that one power KO, so instead of boxing and then waiting for that chance to come, he goes looking for it by forgetting all the basic things that you do in boxing, Wilder must have learnt his lesson in that fight, he shouldn't fall in love with his power because that would be his downfall.

I partially agree with you. Wilder was looking for Ortiz to give him an opening to land a big shot, yes. But he was also being very careful, constantly backing up, trying to avoid boxing him. This is because he knew King Kong's extensive amateur background makes him a superior boxer. He also knew that Ortiz brings some heat. I won't even say that Ortiz needed to be younger to beat Wilder. He just needed to be in better condition.

[LacedUp]

Anyone who denies Ortiz March 2018 isn’t the best heavyweight of this era doesn’t know anything about boxing!!!

[juggernaut666]

how can anyone deny this??

Ortiz is probably top 5 ATG!!!!

You realise the wilder fans will take you seriously right ?

You'll only encourage them to keep posting dumbed down shyte on here bc they cant tell reality from fantasy !

[LacedUp]

You realise the wilder fans will take you seriously right ?

You'll only encourage them to keep posting dumbed down shyte on here bc they cant tell reality from fantasy !

Whatever do you mean dear friend?

Ortiz is surely the best heavyweight ever!! Who else could outbox the great deontay wilder? not Szpilka or washington.

Who else could take this guy to the championship rounds? Not Duhaupas or Molina.

Surely he must be the greatest!!

[juggernaut666]

I didn't say Ortiz was an ATG

I'm also a white male from new England who has never smoked crack and makes more money than you

I didnt address you crack head ,i refered to you bc your an equal idiot .

You aint from N.E ,you're from N.Y and you're a dope !

[Curt Henning]

hahaha look at all the aj cum guzzlers all in tissy "yeah i have him ahead of foreman and holyfield"...hahaha...its great...

wilder "so limited" that AJ wouldnt take 50 mil to come to the states...but would go to states for wlad rematch and jarrell miller lolol