just rewatched wilder/ortiz again for the first time since march...

[Rip Chudd]

Who knows, its a difficult one to predict. The fight didn't go the way i thought it would go. I thought Ortiz would be destroyed but he did better than i thought he would, why? because Wilder allow that to happen, wilder looked like a fighter who was just loading up for one big shot, it was like watching Prince naseem towards the end of his career, he knows he has that one power KO, so instead of boxing and then waiting for that chance to come, he goes looking for it by forgetting all the basic things that you do in boxing, Wilder must have learnt his lesson in that fight, he shouldn't fall in love with his power because that would be his downfall.

Too late on falling in love with your power. He stated after the Ortiz fight that he saw no need to really work on his flaws because he was winning by knockout every time.

[rolshans]

Honestly, I think Ortiz is a top 10 all-time great. That fight very obviously makes Wilder's resume the best in the division.

[Just looking]

Pretty much it. I can't think of any other fight right now that would be so careful in keeping the distance as Wilder, while fighting back, that is. Maybe Joshua efficience against southpaws would help him, any other would have hell

[Squ□redCircle34]

Ortiz is very well schooled and thanks to that amateur pedigree he's seen lots of styles!

Him using his off hand to counter Wilder's right hand was ingenious while most southpaws would try the check hook!

Wished we could've gotten a prime Ortiz in today's division, i would favor him over all!

[mlac]

seeing that oap on blood pressure medication, spitting all over the canvas was sad

[juggernaut666]

Honestly, I think Ortiz is a top 10 all-time great. That fight very obviously makes Wilder's resume the best in the division.

Further proof that the Wilder fanbase are the biggest crack heads of fans in boxing history , not that you need this post to show that .

The TS himself is more then enough evidence !


Ortiz has done ZERO to be an ATG and Wilder has arguably the weakest resume for a 6/7 title defenses at HW in history !

[BodiesInFlight]

Why stop at current heavyweights?

I think he beats all of the greats future past and present.

[Citizen Koba]

holy crap...I honestly think Ortiz probably beats just about every other HW out there not named wilder

not saying definitely.....maybe Joshua beats him but maybe he doesn't.....basically just about every other HW out there gets beat by the march 2018 version of Ortiz

I'm sure most must agree

Well. I ain't saying you're wrong by any stretch, but the problem with this kinda thread (and I'm noticing it ain't your first) is this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Now, don't get me wrong here, I'm one of a few Brits who actually enjoy watching Wilder fight and give him slightly better than evens of winning should he face AJ in the ring, but every single time Wilder steps in the ring with a relatively well schooled HW the odds are gradually stacking against him. The phrase 'a KO waiting to happen' could be applied to many fighters, and nearly everyone fighting at HW, but in Wilders case it adds an extra dimension to the enjoyment of his fights - you know it's gonna be a KO every time (almost) he steps in the ring but part of the excitement always derives from the fact the he's gone in swinging again and somehow got away with it again. If there ever was a fighter made to be loved by gamblers and risk takers, man, it's Deontay.

[rolshans]

Further proof that the Wilder fanbase are the biggest crack heads of fans in boxing history , not that you need this post to show that .

The TS himself is more then enough evidence !


Ortiz has done ZERO to be an ATG and Wilder has arguably the weakest resume for a 6/7 title defenses at HW in history !

Yes, obviously the rest of Wilder's resume is extremely weak. No argument there.

But Ortiz could have killed a Mike Tyson, maybe even Ali. So that alone makes Wilder's resume the best in the past couple decades.

[juggernaut666]

Yes, obviously the rest of Wilder's resume is extremely weak. No argument there.

But Ortiz could have killed a Mike Tyson, maybe even Ali. So that alone makes Wilder's resume the best in the past couple decades.

Maybe the TS will agree with your last paragraph because hes bonkers enough ,but no knowledgeable fan is going to agree that Ortiz kills M.Tyson .

You also state Wilders resume is extremely weak then state its the best for decades ?


This is right up Wilder fanbase alley ...lol !