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  • #31
    Originally posted by evets View Post
    He seems to have some sort of say, for example he didn't just bring Linares' trainer over for himself, he was working with Joyce too. The reason I said what I did though is more to do with Ringstar/Haye not having the money to lure fighters of worth at the speed Joyce will need them. There's just no point in the risk.
    how much signing bonus did joyce get? Still dont understand how he didnt went with Hearn or at least Warren. Haye wasnt and isnt a force as a promoter and has to fight himself to produce big fights for his promotion company lol.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mlac View Post
      the juggernutter logic ' he defeated him in the amateurs he must be better than him'

      Porter beat Usyk in the am's...so hes clearly a better boxer

      Hrgovic was 18 years old and joyce was 27 and he more than held his own in a close fight LOL
      Hrgovic was 21. Doesn't matter, didn't Joyce start boxing when he was 22 or something like that? Only been boxing for five years and still beat a much more experience and skillful boxer.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by VatoMulatto View Post
        Hrgovic was 21. Doesn't matter, didn't Joyce start boxing when he was 22 or something like that? Only been boxing for five years and still beat a much more experience and skillful boxer.
        The OP is ******ed !

        Joyce didnt enter any national level until 2012 /2013 . He was around 27 with minimal experience .
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-10-2018, 06:54 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by VatoMulatto View Post
          Hrgovic was 21. Doesn't matter, didn't Joyce start boxing when he was 22 or something like that? Only been boxing for five years and still beat a much more experience and skillful boxer.
          lol i looked it up he was actually 20... 18,20,21...not really a huge difference is it.

          Sirenko got sparked out by frazier clarke in the world series of boxing, and now hes looking like a top prospect as a pro.
          Arguing or comparing a fight in the amateurs or world series of boxing is a waste of time and completely pointless, it's not the pro ranks so its basically irrelevant.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mlac View Post
            Im not including Joe Joyce because A) hes 30+ years old and B) hes crap.
            Yoka and dubois look pretty stiff. Dubois has power as an equalizer, but Yokas power isnt all that much and he is going to get exposed when he starts fighting live opponents.

            Gorman advances well and puts up nice combinations and has decent handspeed for a heavyweight.

            Hrgovic is well schooled, lacks somewhat in size and power, but has good footwork and quickness.

            Havent seen much of the other guys, but the Tom schwarz dude tried to milk a headbutt and wanted to force a DQ in his last fight lol.

            Then after laying on the floor for like 2 minutes, they continued the fight as if nothing happened.

            A couple rounds later his opponent (Gashi) got disqualified for something I dont remember anymore.

            Gashi then walks up to Schwarz and they start to brawl. Fun fight lol.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by asgarth View Post
              how much signing bonus did joyce get? Still dont understand how he didnt went with Hearn or at least Warren. Haye wasnt and isnt a force as a promoter and has to fight himself to produce big fights for his promotion company lol.
              I was really surprised that he got him to be honest, noone fought to sign him that I could see. Then I realised - Warren has Daniel Dubios, Hearn has AJ, Gormans up and coming and while often on Warren is not his main HW so is a easy pick up if he becomes worth but basically theres no room for Joyce. The money he would require to get anywhere in the few years (paying to get people with belts in with someone under 10 fights is hard if he may actually win) he has would be better spent by Warren developing the younger ones (and cheaper too) and Hearn already has the cashcow who is also pretty young and will still be around when Joyce is too old.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                The OP is ******ed !

                Joyce didnt enter any national level until 2012 /2013 . He was around 27 with minimal experience .
                you are so desperate to be right its so sad lol, i think joyce is crap and his technique is awful, i couldnt care less if you disagree, ima just ignore list you if you keep flooding the thread with your weird annoying drivel.

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                • #38
                  I don't get it, I kinda am not even being hard on Joyce and in his reply to me he just bashed your hate of Joyce. I don't get some people on this site at all.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by evets View Post
                    I don't get it, I kinda am not even being hard on Joyce and in his reply to me he just bashed your hate of Joyce. I don't get some people on this site at all.
                    hes a well known lunatic mate, hes been stalking me for years since i insulted his boot polish haircut:


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by mlac View Post
                      you are so desperate to be right its so sad lol, i think joyce is crap and his technique is awful, i couldnt care less if you disagree, ima just ignore list you if you keep flooding the thread with your weird annoying drivel.
                      No its you are ALWAYS wrong .

                      You even brought up Sirenko vs Clarke who had SEVEN years experience over the 21 yr old .

                      You would probably include Clarke if he was pro though right and still leave out Joyce ?

                      You dont even know the difference between 18 and 20 in a developing fighter ? lol

                      Tom Shwarz doe !
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-10-2018, 07:24 PM.

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