Joyce is pretty developed already though, most of these guys are still being formed so it's more interesting. For what it's worth I think Joyce needs to ditch Haye to achieve his pro potential if he will as these guys have many more years to **** around than he does.
Joyce is still a prospect , and developing though a high level one . Hes no different then Hrgovic who Joyce defeated yet the OP states hes crap and he voted Hrgovic? .....which again isnt shocking if your familiar with the clown . lol
Joyce is still a prospect , and developing though a hgh level one . Hes no different then Hrgovic who Joyce defeated yet the OP states hes crap ? .....which again isnt shocking if your familiar with the clown . lol
Joyce has Richard Schaeffer !
the juggernutter logic ' he defeated him in the amateurs he must be better than him'
Porter beat Usyk in the am's...so hes clearly a better boxer
Hrgovic was 18 years old and joyce was 27 and he more than held his own in a close fight LOL
Joyce is pretty developed already though, most of these guys are still being formed so it's more interesting. For what it's worth I think Joyce needs to ditch Haye to achieve his pro potential if he will as these guys have many more years to **** around than he does.
How much does Haye have to do with Joyce's training & that sorta sh^t? Isn't Haye just his promoter & friend (or seems like they got a closer relationship, think Floyd vs Tank til recently).
How much does Haye have to do with Joyce's training & that sorta sh^t? Isn't Haye just his promoter & friend (or seems like they got a closer relationship, think Floyd vs Tank til recently).
He seems to have some sort of say, for example he didn't just bring Linares' trainer over for himself, he was working with Joyce too. The reason I said what I did though is more to do with Ringstar/Haye not having the money to lure fighters of worth at the speed Joyce will need them. There's just no point in the risk.
Again I could give a fook if he's from California or not. I'm from Salem for pete's sake.
My prospect eye is like no other though, so don't say I didn't tell you so when he becomes champ.
Californian isn't an ethnic group lol
Best of luck to your homeboy, though I don't see him ever becoming champion at heavyweight. But I'll have to trust your completely unbiased eye for it.
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