Comments Thread For: Bellew: Fury Talks Wilder, Joshua - But He's Facing a Nobody

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NO. Tyson Fury is the safest fight that the Bellend can make at HW ; even a cripple David Gaye has more punching-power on one leg.

Go away Iqbal, nobody cares what you think.

When Fury sits down on his punches he hits hard enough, ask Dave Allen who says he hits harder than Ortiz.

Anyway, Fury doesn't need power to beat a bum like Wilder. He's levels above him.

[5000boxing]

Fury would get destroyed by wilder.. but he would beat AJ and bellow easy

[1hourRun]

Go away Iqbal, nobody cares what you think.

When Fury sits down on his punches he hits hard enough, ask Dave Allen who says he hits harder than Ortiz.

Anyway, Fury doesn't need power to beat a bum like Wilder. He's levels above him.

When did David Allen KO Tyson Fury? was it when David put a beating on Jigglypuff in sparring? I think David is bitter because 'King-Kong' was the first and ONLY man to knock him out. Stay mad.

[Kiowhatta]

I was going to charge in on here and say Fury is entitled to fight a 'clown' after all the inactivity and mental health, drug issues- but Bellew really made a solid case against Fury.

Tyson has been a major keyboard jockey troll telling anybody who'll listen that he'll fight anyone, anywhere, anytime. He has been putting himself way above all the top heavyweights for some time now, calling them rubbish.

I am reasonable enough to allow him 2-3 fights moving up in class (he has to stay busy; he cant fight a cab driver once a year then expect to land a fight with Wilder, Joshua, Parker, Povetkin etc) he will need to fight once every 3-4 months to regain his confidence, because if he his really clean and sober, it changes your whole outlook on yourself and your place.
Most addicts have to admit to themselves that they are racked with insecurity, low self-esteem and massive ego's.
Whether it's sport, music, acting or whatever only a few regain the talent they had before they took the pledge, so the biggest challenge for fury is going to be his belief in himself.
The ring is no place for a man who is unsure of himself; no matter how big he is.

[Straightener]

Hearn turned it down...for multiple reasons

First & foremost if fury beat AJ on his first fight back after that lay off. Matchroom would crumble as a stable..the hype would be exposed.

He'd have also wanted Fury signed to a contract..meaning Hearn earns for ****e fights while building an eventual fight with aj...all the while making hearn more money

Bottom line Hearn's arse went not Fury's

That's one way of looking at it ........ the other is Joshua would get no credit for beating a mentally unstable guy after a two year lay off

imagine the s**t storm if Joshua knocked fury out cold and back into depression

[bboy80]

Fury is fighting Charr next from what I hear. Its the reason he picked this dude to fight first.

[ukbox]

I was going to charge in on here and say Fury is entitled to fight a 'clown' after all the inactivity and mental health, drug issues- but Bellew really made a solid case against Fury.

Tyson has been a major keyboard jockey troll telling anybody who'll listen that he'll fight anyone, anywhere, anytime. He has been putting himself way above all the top heavyweights for some time now, calling them rubbish.

I am reasonable enough to allow him 2-3 fights moving up in class (he has to stay busy; he cant fight a cab driver once a year then expect to land a fight with Wilder, Joshua, Parker, Povetkin etc) he will need to fight once every 3-4 months to regain his confidence, because if he his really clean and sober, it changes your whole outlook on yourself and your place.
Most addicts have to admit to themselves that they are racked with insecurity, low self-esteem and massive ego's.
Whether it's sport, music, acting or whatever only a few regain the talent they had before they took the pledge, so the biggest challenge for fury is going to be his belief in himself.
The ring is no place for a man who is unsure of himself; no matter how big he is.

Fury has never ever doubted his own confidence. He became depressed from the negativity he attracted, he didnt handle it well. He was a young guy with no media machine behind him.
He was hated, treated like scum. The guy should have been celebrated & a national hero. But he speaks what he thinks & was there for the taking with journalists looking to get paid with a controversial headline.

The more hate he got, the lower and more depressed he became until he made himself feel betterby turning to drink & drugs. He always knew that was the wrong path

He was mentally ill & showed vulnerability but that doesnt mean he doesnt have a strong mind nor self belief & bundles of talent

[ukbox]

That's one way of looking at it ........ the other is Joshua would get no credit for beating a mentally unstable guy after a two year lay off

imagine the s**t storm if Joshua knocked fury out cold and back into depression

So now eddie hearn has joshua avoiding fighters that he will earn a massive payday from & is guaranteed to ko?

Doesn't sound very plausible to me but to each their own

[Straightener]

So now eddie hearn has joshua avoiding fighters that he will earn a massive payday from & is guaranteed to ko?

Doesn't sound very plausible to me but to each their own

I’m not saying fury is a guaranteed ko for anyone or a easy fight

But to expect fury to walk straight into a title fight after a break down and two years off is ******ed

[Holler]

I was going to charge in on here and say Fury is entitled to fight a 'clown' after all the inactivity and mental health, drug issues- but Bellew really made a solid case against Fury.

Tyson has been a major keyboard jockey troll telling anybody who'll listen that he'll fight anyone, anywhere, anytime. He has been putting himself way above all the top heavyweights for some time now, calling them rubbish.

I am reasonable enough to allow him 2-3 fights moving up in class (he has to stay busy; he cant fight a cab driver once a year then expect to land a fight with Wilder, Joshua, Parker, Povetkin etc) he will need to fight once every 3-4 months to regain his confidence, because if he his really clean and sober, it changes your whole outlook on yourself and your place.
Most addicts have to admit to themselves that they are racked with insecurity, low self-esteem and massive ego's.
Whether it's sport, music, acting or whatever only a few regain the talent they had before they took the pledge, so the biggest challenge for fury is going to be his belief in himself.
The ring is no place for a man who is unsure of himself; no matter how big he is.

This is an excellent post and articulates a feeling I've had about fury since his return. I get a consistent feeling that Tyson is acting a role, trying to make himself strong and relevant by the force of his words. It doesn't seem to flow from inner strength and certainty, instead he has a brittle, almost vulnerable quality.

I appreciate this is subjective and simply the result of me watching various interviews and reading quotes, but all I can say is this is the honest opinion I have from what I've seen and your post is as good an explanation for that appearance as I've seen.

If anything it makes me warm to Tyson and wish him well, mental illness of any kind is a tough burden to shoulder. What worries me is that last sentence you've written. Fury can take these next 3 or 4 opponents easily enough one would imagine given his physical gifts, but once he steps in the ring with an elite level fighter there will be a mental battle to fight which could expose any weakness.