Comments Thread For: IBF Explain Their Decision To Strip Gennady Golovkin of Title

[aboutfkntime]

I don't see Murata as a "cherry-pick." He reminds me of a MW Wlad Klitschko! I don't hate GGG! I don't like his team, and the **** they say, but I still like the fighter! Murata in Tokoyo, or Saunders in London, are both great substitutes for a Canelo fight!

he is an absolute made-to-order cherry-pick, because of style

they are playing to Golovkin's strengths, and have been doing so since at least 2012

if Golovkin can land on you, they will fight you..... because, they (correctly) back Gennady's power to break his opponent down

well, Golovkin will land on Murata..... he will be readily "available" throughout the fight

the mover/spoilers are the guys they will not fight

like I explained here.....

Golovkin inexplicably fought Vanes lol

Golovkin KNEW that selecting Vanes would waste a precious fight-date, and create an impossible log-jam in September...

they knew !!

like I asked many times, how the fk was Golovkin going to fight...

1) his mando, Derevyanchenko
2) his payday, Canelo
3) his WBO dream, Saunders
4) his other mando, Charlo

..... all in September ?????

then..... AFTER INTENTIONALLY creating an impossible log-jam..... what did Team Bull**** do.....?

did they talk about Derevy?..... did they talk about Canelo?..... did they talk about Saunders?..... did they talk about Charlo?

NO..... they ALL started talking about Murata lol ?????

why would the IBF do anything other than strip that boy ?

why should anyone put up with that bull****, from Team Bull****?

hard luck for Golovkin

there is a DAMN good reason why..... despite having a log-jam of justifiable opponents for September..... Loeffler, Golovkin, and Sanchez, ALL started excitedly talking about Murata IMMEDIATELY following the Vanes fight..... and I know what that reason is

that was no coincidence, they have obviously discussed him

he is the safest " name " opponent

[aboutfkntime]

**** the IBF. GG, **** that title. You don’t need it. They ranked a ****en 12 fight amateur as his mandatory. **** the IBF.

who cares ?

is Derevyanchenko better than Vanes ?

FACT: Golovkin should have fought Derevyanchenko

you make out like Team Golovkin were looking for a challenge when they selected Vanes lol

[aboutfkntime]

That Murata fight in Tokyo would be huge. Not as much money as Canelo but it would be a great TV spectacle because Murata apparently is a huge star in Japan.

I think it is rubbish

I would have no interest in that fight whatsoever

there are MUCH better fights to make

Murata is the safest " name " opponent..... and I am sick of Golovkin tip-toeing through the tulips

[Bronx2245]

he is an absolute made-to-order cherry-pick, because of style

they are playing to Golovkin's strengths, and have been doing so since at least 2012

if Golovkin can land on you, they will fight you..... because, they (correctly) back Gennady's power to break his opponent down

well, Golovkin will land on Murata..... he will be readily "available" throughout the fight

the mover/spoilers are the guys they will not fight

like I explained here.....




there is a DAMN good reason why..... despite having a log-jam of justifiable opponents for September..... Loeffler, Golovkin, and Sanchez, ALL started excitedly talking about Murata IMMEDIATELY following the Vanes fight..... and I know what that reason is

that was no coincidence, they have obviously discussed him

he is the safest " name " opponent

I understand your frustration with GGG, but I think you're overlooking something:

April 18, 2018:

Murata (14-1, 11 KO's), who is the WBA 'regular' middleweight titlist, has become a full-blown star in his country.

"You've got to understand, nobody has ever seen anything like this in Japan for a Japanese fighter. I mean, he's getting ratings that are not to be believed, that are bigger than baseball. He did 15 million people who watched the fight live on a Sunday night and it peaked at 17 million. That's a country that has barely a hundred million people. That's something incredible, like Super Bowl kind of numbers," Arum said.

As for how well a Golovkin-Murata event would do at the box-office at the Tokyo Dome (famous for hosting Buster Douglas-Mike Tyson in 1990), Arum stated - "I think it holds around 60,000 and it'll be sold-out."

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-bel...o-dome--127272

If I was a 36yr. old champion, I would have to consider that! Frank Warren (Saunders) would have to tell me something really good to pass that up! That being said, I remember a time when GGG said "I'm not business man!" I knew he was FOS back then! If he wanted to fight "the best," he would've fought Andre Ward @ 168, instead of the Cotto vs. Canelo winner! Ward was P4P #1, or #2, at the time!

[Larry the boss]

he should have fought someone making their boxing debut, like mayweather just did. at least vanes had fought as a damn professional

Maybe he should hell Floyd made $275 million for it..

[aboutfkntime]

I understand your frustration with GGG, but I think you're overlooking something:

April 18, 2018:

Murata (14-1, 11 KO's), who is the WBA 'regular' middleweight titlist, has become a full-blown star in his country.

"You've got to understand, nobody has ever seen anything like this in Japan for a Japanese fighter. I mean, he's getting ratings that are not to be believed, that are bigger than baseball. He did 15 million people who watched the fight live on a Sunday night and it peaked at 17 million. That's a country that has barely a hundred million people. That's something incredible, like Super Bowl kind of numbers," Arum said.

As for how well a Golovkin-Murata event would do at the box-office at the Tokyo Dome (famous for hosting Buster Douglas-Mike Tyson in 1990), Arum stated - "I think it holds around 60,000 and it'll be sold-out."

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-bel...o-dome--127272

If I was a 36yr. old champion, I would have to consider that! Frank Warren (Saunders) would have to tell me something really good to pass that up! That being said, I remember a time when GGG said "I'm not business man!" I knew he was FOS back then! If he wanted to fight "the best," he would've fought Andre Ward @ 168, instead of the Cotto vs. Canelo winner! Ward was P4P #1, or #2, at the time!

I am not debating whether Murata would be a good money fight

I have no idea

I am sure you are correct

but.....

FACT: there are much better fights/opponents available.....

and I am sick and tired of Golovkin taking the easy way out

fair call ^^..... but, this will be my take.....

IF Golovkin selects Murata, ahead of Saunders..... the guy who has been running around with his "dream"..... crashing his pressers to present him with a pen, and calling him Pvssy-Borat..... then I will know exactly what is up..... and it will put the BIZARRE unjustifiable selection of Vanes in perfect perspective

Golovkin will have fought two back-to-back soft-touches to enable him to break Hopkins record, without breaking a sweat

if they wanted a money-fight they would take Canelo, because Canelo could lose to Jacobs costing Golovkin millions

[bigdunny1]

can't fight murata without being stripped of the WBC belt. Can you imagine how much a joke he will look like after years lying to his fans saying all I care about is the belts my dream is to unify all the belts and in the course of a few months has 2 of his belts taken from him because he ducked his mandatories to fight the worse fighter of the bunch a guy nobody on this side of the globe has even heard,seen or cares about? Here is the order of fights fans are demanding Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders, Charlo, and you refuse to fight any of them and fight Murata a fight in Japan that would air at like 9AM in the US because of the time difference and not pay him even half as much as Canelo offered and would do nothing for his career, resume and doesn't even add a new belt. Sounds just like the opponent that coward likes to fight. LMAO

[aboutfkntime]

I understand your frustration with GGG, but I think you're overlooking something:

April 18, 2018:

Murata (14-1, 11 KO's), who is the WBA 'regular' middleweight titlist, has become a full-blown star in his country.

"You've got to understand, nobody has ever seen anything like this in Japan for a Japanese fighter. I mean, he's getting ratings that are not to be believed, that are bigger than baseball. He did 15 million people who watched the fight live on a Sunday night and it peaked at 17 million. That's a country that has barely a hundred million people. That's something incredible, like Super Bowl kind of numbers," Arum said.

As for how well a Golovkin-Murata event would do at the box-office at the Tokyo Dome (famous for hosting Buster Douglas-Mike Tyson in 1990), Arum stated - "I think it holds around 60,000 and it'll be sold-out."

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-bel...o-dome--127272

If I was a 36yr. old champion, I would have to consider that! Frank Warren (Saunders) would have to tell me something really good to pass that up! That being said, I remember a time when GGG said "I'm not business man!" I knew he was FOS back then! If he wanted to fight "the best," he would've fought Andre Ward @ 168, instead of the Cotto vs. Canelo winner! Ward was P4P #1, or #2, at the time!

there are two reasons to fight..... money, and legacy

money = Canelo..... legacy = Murata

Team Golovkin have taken the easy way out at EVERY opportunity

they have settled for cheap shine at EVERY opportunity

you saw what happened with the selection of Munguia, Spike, then Vanes

they have continually chosen the KO of a no-hoper, over a REAL fight with an opponent who had a chance..... I can provide 7 names..... they preferred to collect a vacant belt, rather than fight Canelo..... they have preferred to rely on hype and bullshht, rather than legitimate accomplishments.....

so, why on earth would they stop now ?

Golovkin has very little to show for his efforts other than a couple of vacant straps and one that he took from the mid-level slugger Lemieux..... and he is well-aware of that fact..... there is no unifying of the division, there are no titles at 168, there are no HOF/ATG names on his resume

immediately prior to Vanes, Loeffler and Golovkin were proudly talking about tying Hopkins record..... and immediately after the Vanes fight they ALL continually mentioned Murata..... Loeffler, Sanchez, and Golovkin himself

you can call my views pessimistic if you wish, but I am simply calling on history..... I know their MO, because I have watched carefully and questioned some of the bizarre statements/decisions that they have made..... unlike the fawning media.....

I have been involved with this sport and have followed the game closely for DECADES..... and the situations with Mora/Cotto were BIZARRE..... never seen anything like that before..... and as I said, I can name 5 other guys as well

the Cotto situation, makes this really obvious to me

you can call my views pessimistic, but I will call them smart, and ahead-of-the-curve..... because I find Team Bullshht extremely predictable and their MO has never changed

tying Hopkins record, to top off an average career/resume..... is far more important to them now than a couple of mil extra from Murata..... because Canelo is the money fight, and not taking that Canelo payday now is risking a lot more money than they will gain from Murata

sorry bro, but pretty sure I know whats up with Team Cheap Shine..... Team Easy-Way-Out..... or whatever you want to call them

[aboutfkntime]

can't fight murata without being stripped of the WBC belt. Can you imagine how much a joke he will look like after years lying to his fans saying all I care about is the belts my dream is to unify all the belts and in the course of a few months has 2 of his belts taken from him because he ducked his mandatories to fight the worse fighter of the bunch a guy nobody on this side of the globe has even heard,seen or cares about? Here is the order of fights fans are demanding Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders, Charlo, and you refuse to fight any of them and fight Murata a fight in Japan that would air at like 9AM in the US because of the time difference and not pay him even half as much as Canelo offered and would do nothing for his career, resume and doesn't even add a new belt. Sounds just like the opponent that coward likes to fight. LMAO

who cares ?

they just got stripped by the IBF, and they have made no real effort to fight Saunders..... they clearly have no intention of unifying the division, so the WBC belt means nothing

the WBA interim/regular/whatever, is the belt with the defence run

Golovkin would not fight Derevy, so he aint gonna get in there with Charlo

[Raggamuffin]

who cares ?

is Derevyanchenko better than Vanes ?

FACT: Golovkin should have fought Derevyanchenko

you make out like Team Golovkin were looking for a challenge when they selected Vanes lol

He wanted Canelo, and Canelo was caught cheating. So don't try to switch that **** around, lmao.