De La Hoya: Golovkin fight is dead, trying to make Danny Jacobs fight

[siablo14]

Jacobs in September and (if Alvarez wins the fight) Saunders in May for the WBO belt, before then (if Alvarez wins) taking on the WBO's top challenger September 2019 (Andrade is the top challenger, but that'd also be a fourth tough fight in a row)

When has Canelo lost a close decision fight? He gets all of them.

[KidDinamita]

Very good business move from De La Cutlery.

Fighting Jacobs a guy that lost to GGG although still a very dangerous move for Canelo.

Then fight GGG next year when he is a year older.

[Curt Henning]

Actually Ward agreed to the 50-50 split just not the weight. Andre wanted 60%.

"My situation is much better. [I want] 50-50 money, 50-50 weight, 50-50 situation. This is logic, 50-50." -Golovkin

“GGG is now clearly the ‘A’ side yet Ward still would want to dictate terms, which makes no sense. GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis, the best 160-pounder versus the best 168-pounder [at] 164 [and] a 50-50 split on all proceeds." -Loeffler

"He wanted 50-50 and I said give it to him. I'm not going to argue about ten percent." - Ward

This never goes anywhere, just round-n-round. I've moved past it & accepted for what it is. Just poor timing. One year earlier or later it probably would of happened.

164=surefire way to kill the fight...which is what loeffler wanted

its not poor timing...lil g fought dom wade and kell brook in 2016 when he could have fought ward

lil g would have prob made the same money he did in the brook fight if he fought ward..which would have been a career high payday.....he didn't want that L though...not a good look to have an L when youre sniffing canelos ass

[S7V7N]

164=surefire way to kill the fight...which is what loeffler wanted

its not poor timing...lil g fought dom wade and kell brook in 2016 when he could have fought ward

lil g would have prob made the same money he did in the brook fight if he fought ward..which would have been a career high payday.....he didn't want that L though...not a good look to have an L when youre sniffing canelos ass

That was a year later, Ward said by then he couldn't make 168 anymore. There was no discussion even going on at that time.

The part I never get an answer to is why Ward didn't jump on the offer? It was made Jul 8, 2015, just two weeks after Andre fought Smith. Ward didn't send the letter saying he'd agreed to the split until the day they signed with Lemieux. That was 3 weeks later. Perhaps if he'd have agreed earlier they'd have taken it. They at least could have negotiated or we'd have gotten a better answer at least. We'll never know.

[Curt Henning]

That was a year later, Ward said by then he couldn't make 168 anymore. There was no discussion even going on at that time.

The part I never get an answer to is why Ward didn't jump on the offer? It was made Jul 8, 2015, just two weeks after Andre fought Smith. Ward didn't send the letter saying he'd agreed to the split until the day they signed with Lemieux. That was 3 weeks later. Perhaps if he'd have agreed earlier they'd have taken it. They at least could have negotiated or we'd have gotten a better answer at least. We'll never know.

please show me the date and confirmation from both parties on golovkins "offer" that he made in july 2015....ive never seen it

what we do know is that ward did reach out to k2 ...as confirmed by both sides...and k2 said no within an hour...and the excuse provided is the one I showed you....

ward also confronted loeffler face to face and told him to stop running their lips and lying about him...and loeffler said "its not me its the trainer".....

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[Curt Henning]

That was a year later, Ward said by then he couldn't make 168 anymore. There was no discussion even going on at that time.

The part I never get an answer to is why Ward didn't jump on the offer? It was made Jul 8, 2015, just two weeks after Andre fought Smith. Ward didn't send the letter saying he'd agreed to the split until the day they signed with Lemieux. That was 3 weeks later. Perhaps if he'd have agreed earlier they'd have taken it. They at least could have negotiated or we'd have gotten a better answer at least. We'll never know.

after smith fight in late summer of 2015 ward approached k2....about fighting in 2016 after one tuneup each at 168

k2 said "no we have plants to unify"....they didn't get the canelo fight(even though canelo had no belt it was what they were chasing) until September 2017...almost two years later.....and k2 didn't want that fight in all of 2016 when they ended up fighting dom wade and kell brook

what logic and common sense can you use to believe that they actually wanted to fight ward before that? absolutely 0...none....because he was still in line for cotto and canelo

[S7V7N]

please show me the date and confirmation from both parties on golovkins "offer" that he made in july 2015....ive never seen it

what we do know is that ward did reach out to k2 ...as confirmed by both sides...and k2 said no within an hour...and the excuse provided is the one I showed you....

ward also confronted loeffler face to face and told him to stop running their lips and lying about him...and loeffler said "its not me its the trainer".....

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Don't say I won't go the extra mile for ya. A little reading on the history. I can see both sides, but when the fight was able to be made, one or the other side claimed the timing wasn't right.

Jul 3, 2015 "Andre Ward turned down a fight with me three times to HBO."

Jul 8, 2015 “GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis, the best 160-pounder versus the best 168-pounder [at] 164 [and] a 50-50 split on all proceeds. But it seems like Ward needs more tuneup fights.”

Jun 16, 2015 "At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no."

They were discussing this earlier, but Ward was in court with Goosen. Then once signed with Roc Nation & says anytime, anyplace. We're all looking forward to the fight, yet now he needs 2-3 tune-ups.

Jan 10, 2015 "He'll fight him anywhere, anyplace, anytime. A fight against Andre Ward in Southern California would be very marketable. Ward's lawyer, Josh Dubin, sent me an email saying that Andre will fight him wherever."

JAN 09, 2015 Ward said Hunter wants him to "get in a two- or three-fight groove," sharpening his game, then to "fight the best," with names like Gennady Golovkin, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Carl Froch the most attractive matchups in Ward's weight range.

JUL 27, 2014 Gennady Golovkin, the danger that Andre Ward cannot avoid

[bigdunny1]

lil g is a fraud because he played the A side game with Andre Ward and his fanboys loved it.. but now that he's getting treated like a cheap hoe by the A side Canelo they don't like it as much..

he's a fraud because for over 5 years hes been saying his dream is to be undisputed yet he's been obsessed and preoccupied with Canelo all this time when he has no belts..

hes a fraud because he called other fighters "businessman" to ridicule them when they chose less risky fights yet he became a businessman when it came to Lara, Ward and recently his mando Derev.

i made a thread long time ago saying his obsessive stalking and ass sniffing of Canelo will backfire.. and here it is.

THIS ^^^ GGG is a hypocrite on so many levels. Mr I'm not a business man LMAO

[Killerd0ll]

GGG vs Charlo hopefully 🙏🏾

[Curt Henning]

Don't say I won't go the extra mile for ya. A little reading on the history. I can see both sides, but when the fight was able to be made, one or the other side claimed the timing wasn't right.

Jul 3, 2015 "Andre Ward turned down a fight with me three times to HBO."

Jul 8, 2015 “GGG would fight Ward on a 50-50 basis, the best 160-pounder versus the best 168-pounder [at] 164 [and] a 50-50 split on all proceeds. But it seems like Ward needs more tuneup fights.”

Jun 16, 2015 "At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no."

They were discussing this earlier, but Ward was in court with Goosen. Then once signed with Roc Nation & says anytime, anyplace. We're all looking forward to the fight, yet now he needs 2-3 tune-ups.

Jan 10, 2015 "He'll fight him anywhere, anyplace, anytime. A fight against Andre Ward in Southern California would be very marketable. Ward's lawyer, Josh Dubin, sent me an email saying that Andre will fight him wherever."

JAN 09, 2015 Ward said Hunter wants him to "get in a two- or three-fight groove," sharpening his game, then to "fight the best," with names like Gennady Golovkin, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Carl Froch the most attractive matchups in Ward's weight range.

JUL 27, 2014 Gennady Golovkin, the danger that Andre Ward cannot avoid

the problem here is that when golovkins team alludes to ward turning down a fight they are alluding to a time when ward was known to be on the shelf

the first "quote" appears to be a headline..not a quote

164 was a surefire way to say "you cant make that ward...so get lost"....everyone knew ward would have all he could do to get to 168...that in itself was probably going to be draining for ward....yet they insisted on trying to drain him 4 more

if you didn't want to fight ward in 2016 coming off a long layoff...you never wanted to fight him...its just common sense

lil g on video "ward? he too much"