spence v crawford will NEVER be a superfight

[Fists_of_Fury]

Fair enough. I think it will depend on how they are marketed. Right now, it's absolutely criminal how poorly many American boxers are being marketed. You'd think that after the success Floyd Mayweather achieved that it would open the gates for a new generation of boxers. What we have now though, are some great talents, that fans know (and care) very little about. I'm FAR more interested in Spence and Crawford than I ever was in Floyd but they aren't being marketed/promoted well, IMO.

Floyd wasn't marketed or promoted right either. He got big on his own. He created a heel persona to become as big as he was/is.

[A.K]

2 p4p top skilled guys in their prime fighting each other is a super fight for boxing no matter how you cut it, and it’s far better than lacy calzag(I know you consider that a huge fight in boxing history for some reason).

I consider usyk gassiev a superfight and this is about the same scale even higher as far as popularity goes.

[Redd Foxx]

Floyd wasn't marketed or promoted right either. He got big on his own. He created a heel persona to become as big as he was/is.

Yes, because he marketed and promoted himself, which is exactly what I was talking about.

[Madison Boxing]

Crawford hasn't had a single fight at ww yet. His first fight isn't a cakewalk either, it's a solid challenge.

Give him a couple of fights to adjust. They're both young. No reason to rush. 2020 is a good year for them to fight. Maybe late 19

What u mean no rush lol. There's talented guys at 147 and the surrounding divisions, surely you just make.the most interesting fights pretty quick. Cause it's gonna be them.two.beating on people like horn and ocampos in the mean time for next couple of years. As someone else said by time its 2020 Spence might not even be at the weight lol

[Eff Pandas]

Yea I tend to agree. It looks like Bud isn't even going to get that coveted Manny fight to lift his name up a lil more to where the big names are at.

Hard to hate on either guy cuz both seem passionate for their craft & put a lot into it, but there is zero intangibles that carry this fight to the casual fans that I'm seeing at the moment. Maybe something will arise sooner or later or some key win gets one or both into the limelight more, but idk who it'd be vs or when its likely to actually happen.

That said I'd still love to see this fight, but since its not some SUPERFIGHT it would seem less likely this fight would get a chance to be made cuz neither side is gonna be THAT excited about the risk vs reward equation.

[Eff Pandas]

Floyd wasn't marketed or promoted right either. He got big on his own. He created a heel persona to become as big as he was/is.

Arum never lets his guys turn heel. Bud is a thug or street dude to some degree I think most would agree, but that part of his personality has been squashed as much as possible & they always try to protray him as the family guy & all that standard run of the mill sh^t.

And Spence seems like a genuine nice guy so idk that you could even turn him into a heel.

Floyd was always a higher strung dude with that Napoleon complex thing going on I think. A heel turn for him seemed more natural.

Kovalev would be a good guy to make that heel turn to, but again Duva is pushing that same ole same ole narrative of the boxing family man.

And in general I think anyone with a un-fan friendly style who wins is a good guy to turn villain if they got that type of angle in their personality cuz those guys will NEVER be loved like guys with more exciting styles or guys who KO guys so becoming a villain is the one & maybe only way they will be able to transform themselves into a more popular fighter.

[lolpz]

What doesn't make sense?

In the first 3 sentences you say two very dumb things.

"How is this a superfight, what is there to marinate?"

Well, one of them is #2 if not #1 p4p in the world depending on who you ask, and the other is certainly top 5/6. They are both in the red hot welterweight division, and have a lot of buzz behind their names. Both undefeated, touted to carry the sport.

You also say "How is this going to marinate?"

If they both keep winning and racking up titles/defenses, it's a perfect marination for 2 "across the pond" fighters. One from Haymon the other from Top Rank, that would definitely sell on PPV. That rivalry.

Also, Spence is in line to fight the winner of Garcia/Porter at the end of the year. It's pretty much set in stone. Setting up a huge ppv unificaiton bout with Crawford, given he comes out on top against Jeff Horn which we all believe he will.

So yes, very ignorant and uninformed thread overall in almost every way possible.

[Madison Boxing]

In the first 3 sentences you say two very dumb things.

"How is this a superfight, what is there to marinate?"

Well, one of them is #2 if not #1 p4p in the world depending on who you ask, and the other is certainly top 5/6. They are both in the red hot welterweight division, and have a lot of buzz behind their names. Both undefeated, touted to carry the sport.

You also say "How is this going to marinate?"

If they both keep winning and racking up titles/defenses, it's a perfect marination for 2 "across the pond" fighters. One from Haymon the other from Top Rank, that would definitely sell on PPV. That rivalry.

Also, Spence is in line to fight the winner of Garcia/Porter at the end of the year. It's pretty much set in stone. Setting up a huge ppv unificaiton bout with Crawford, given he comes out on top against Jeff Horn which we all believe he will.

So yes, very ignorant and uninformed thread overall in almost every way possible.

I'm talking about superfight in terms or viewing figures and interest, which is why they usually marinate s fight. Ward v kovalev was basically the top two pound for pound fighters and the fight did horribly.

[Madison Boxing]

2 p4p top skilled guys in their prime fighting each other is a super fight for boxing no matter how you cut it, and it’s far better than lacy calzag(I know you consider that a huge fight in boxing history for some reason).

I consider usyk gassiev a superfight and this is about the same scale even higher as far as popularity goes.

How did ward v kovalev do at the box office? You guys are completely missing the point of this thread. They are marinating it for casual attraction which is never gonna come

[Chuckguy]

not doubting they are talented fighters and its a fight id love to see, but point im trying to make is that people are saying its too early for the fight, yet i cant see it ever developing into a fight thats gonna be really be any bigger than it is now. i just dont see it being a crossover event worthy of years of building.

It’s a superfight for boxing fans but casuals run the sport so it won’t be a super fight like Floyd’s or prime mannys fights. You need at least one superstar and both have the personality of dry paint