Just because the offer may have had clauses that Hearn "couldn't" accept, doesn't make the offer any less legit. It's not up to other fighters to protect Joshua's sponsorship deals and handshake agreements with vendors etc.
Please tell you understand that Hearn was low-balling his total revenue projection to make the flat fee seem attractive.
All of those things are par for the course. There are very few rules in business. Besides, Hearn basically said the primary reason why he didn't verbally accept the deal was because he didn't want to look like a "schmuck" if he backed out due to a deal point he just couldn't accept. Little did we know that that deal point was having the fight in the U.S.
That's not that unacceptable considering Wilder would have a) won the fight and got the belts b) now be drawing more U.S/UK revenue after having won the first fight.
You are saying Wilder should get 60% of the split? You must be smoking crack
I wouldn't get too excited about Liam Walsh. Not even people in the UK had a clue who he was. Hardcore boxing fans perhaps because he has one credible UK name on his record, but not even most boxing fans would know him.
Just because the offer may have had clauses that Hearn "couldn't" accept, doesn't make the offer any less legit. It's not up to other fighters to protect Joshua's sponsorship deals and handshake agreements with vendors etc.
Dear Anthony,
We would like to offer you a guaranteed $50m* to fight Deontay Wilder for the undisputed hw championship of the world.
Please indicate your acceptance immediately as this offer will expire in 48 hours.
Kind Regards,
Shelley
*Subject to the following clauses:
The fight will take place at **** you
On the **** you of the month of **** you at **** you a clock
By agreeing to this deal your US fights will be shown on Showtime for perpetuity for a token payment of **** you
The judges for the fight will be Marcellus Wilder (US), Frank Warren (UK) and Jay Deas (US)
The referee for the fight will be Deontay Wilder (US)
You agree to turn over your social media account logins to our fight promotional team.
You will conduct 15 interviews a day to promote the fight. Media interviews will be managed by us. Unfortunately your media committements mean that a training camp will not be possible for this fight.
You will cease promotional activities with any commercial partners not approved by us.
Your approved commercial partners for this fight include The Weinstein Company, The Trump Organisation, The cluster bomb subsidiary of Northrop Grumman and a conglomerate of Oligarchs known colloquially as SPECTRE. An AJ branded Cluster bomb will be released by you as part of the build-up to the fight. We promise to give the target location* concerned due warning**.
*By target we mean elementary school
**By due warning we mean one tweet at 4 am on Shelley's new twitter account in the Basque language.
There will be a generator* in your dressing room** should you require electric lights or air conditioning.
By dressing room** we mean latrine pit.
By generator* we mean treadmill.
All fighters who are not Deontay Wilder to wear approved pink tutu and diving boots when in the ring.
Please submit your head measurement for the making of your blindfold.
We will require an arm and a leg to be removed in advance of the fight. You may choose whichever arm and leg you wish as long as they are the right sided ones.
By 50million we mean 1, by dollars we mean popsicles.
We would like to offer you a guaranteed $50m* to fight Deontay Wilder for the undisputed hw championship of the world.
Please indicate your acceptance immediately as this offer will expire in 48 hours.
Kind Regards,
Shelley
*Subject to the following clauses:
The fight will take place at **** you
On the **** you of the month of **** you at **** you a clock
By agreeing to this deal your US fights will be shown on Showtime for perpetuity for a token payment of **** you
The judges for the fight will be Marcellus Wilder (US), Frank Warren (UK) and Jay Deas (US)
The referee for the fight will be Deontay Wilder (US)
You agree to turn over your social media account logins to our fight promotional team.
You will conduct 15 interviews a day to promote the fight. Media interviews will be managed by us. Unfortunately your media committements mean that a training camp will not be possible for this fight.
You will cease promotional activities with any commercial partners not approved by us.
Your approved commercial partners for this fight include The Weinstein Company, The Trump Organisation, The cluster bomb subsidiary of Northrop Grumman and a conglomerate of Oligarchs known colloquially as SPECTRE. An AJ branded Cluster bomb will be released by you as part of the build-up to the fight. We promise to give the target location* concerned due warning**.
*By target we mean elementary school
**By due warning we mean one tweet at 4 am on Shelley's new twitter account in the Basque language.
There will be a generator* in your dressing room** should you require electric lights or air conditioning.
By dressing room** we mean latrine pit.
By generator* we mean treadmill.
All fighters who are not Deontay Wilder to wear approved pink tutu and diving boots when in the ring.
Please submit your head measurement for the making of your blindfold.
We will require an arm and a leg to be removed in advance of the fight. You may choose whichever arm and leg you wish as long as they are the right sided ones.
By 50million we mean 1, by dollars we mean popsicles.
difference is that las vegas is the more neutral venue for a big fight, and that it's where the money is. one side is being less reasonable than the other. given what i've told you about the neutrality and the revenue, who do you think it is?
Please mate, stop saying that. The 2 most flagrant examples of corruption in major title fights I've ever seen - Byrd's GGG/Canelo scorecard and Ward's tripple nutshot KO of Kovalev, both happened in Vegas rings only last year.
And no, neither was remotely comparable to AJ, who wasn't in any trouble at all at the time, going back to his corner to get his glove retaped without an official time-out being called by the ref.
A legit but unacceptable offer is just that.
The James Braddock 10% will never be forgotten. People don't just jump at any offer right?
I think there is a wide line between legit an unacceptable. Unacceptable to one fighter may be perfectly acceptable and preferable to another. Doesn't make it any less legit.
As I said before, it is not a promoter's responsibility to know and subsequently work around another fighters contractual obligations.
We would like to offer you a guaranteed $50m* to fight Deontay Wilder for the undisputed hw championship of the world.
Please indicate your acceptance immediately as this offer will expire in 48 hours.
Kind Regards,
Shelley
*Subject to the following clauses:
The fight will take place at **** you
On the **** you of the month of **** you at **** you a clock
By agreeing to this deal your US fights will be shown on Showtime for perpetuity for a token payment of **** you
The judges for the fight will be Marcellus Wilder (US), Frank Warren (UK) and Jay Deas (US)
The referee for the fight will be Deontay Wilder (US)
You agree to turn over your social media account logins to our fight promotional team.
You will conduct 15 interviews a day to promote the fight. Media interviews will be managed by us. Unfortunately your media committements mean that a training camp will not be possible for this fight.
You will cease promotional activities with any commercial partners not approved by us.
Your approved commercial partners for this fight include The Weinstein Company, The Trump Organisation, The cluster bomb subsidiary of Northrop Grumman and a conglomerate of Oligarchs known colloquially as SPECTRE. An AJ branded Cluster bomb will be released by you as part of the build-up to the fight. We promise to give the target location* concerned due warning**.
*By target we mean elementary school
**By due warning we mean one tweet at 4 am on Shelley's new twitter account in the Basque language.
There will be a generator* in your dressing room** should you require electric lights or air conditioning.
By dressing room** we mean latrine pit.
By generator* we mean treadmill.
All fighters who are not Deontay Wilder to wear approved pink tutu and diving boots when in the ring.
Please submit your head measurement for the making of your blindfold.
We will require an arm and a leg to be removed in advance of the fight. You may choose whichever arm and leg you wish as long as they are the right sided ones.
By 50million we mean 1, by dollars we mean popsicles.
I sincerely hope that you didn't take the time to type all of that. It's a level of hyperbole and lunacy rarely posted on NSB by posters who are not considered professional trolls.
Dude, it is what it is. Joshua would rather fight at home where his energy is bound to be different and the crowd can will him to get off the canvas if necessary. Nothing wrong with that. It's the Joshua fans who posted all that bs who should be embarrassed.
I think there is a wide line between legit an unacceptable. Unacceptable to one fighter may be perfectly acceptable and preferable to another. Doesn't make it any less legit.
As I said before, it is not a promoter's responsibility to know and subsequently work around another fighters contractual obligations.
I agree. It's a promoter's job to make the most out of the deal that they can, for their fighter and themselves in the process. A genuine offer may still be a con job, Italy simply about getting the most they can and getting it signed off.
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