Comments Thread For: Hearn: With My War Chest - I'll Build Biggest Stable Ever in U.S.

[b00g13man]

I'd be interested in seeing where this goes, but I have to be honest. This looks doomed for failure.

[Eff Pandas]

Boxers and promoters have their issues, but waiting on Haymon's fighters to sour on him would be a long wait from what we've seen.

Why does things like this get mentioned like they matter still. Haymon is a manager. Hearn is a promoter. They can co-exist on a fighters team.

And even taking into account w/e PBC is currently Haymon isn't doing his job as a manager if his fighters are receiving offers for more money & similar or better future opponents & not advising his fighters that that could be the superior deal for them as it would seem to be for a % of Haymon managed fighters.

Why he's not going after a fighter like Kovalev is beyond me.

Isn't he still with Duva? If he's a free agent or will be soon I suspect he will go after him, but if not I don't see the point.

But I am sure there are guys who are free agents or near free agent status that Hearn will be picking up this year if the money is as good as advised cuz this DAZN thing would seem like a decent enough opportunity for most boxers on the cusp of the big time, but behind the old heads that TV channels don't like pushing out of the way too soon exactly either.

[Eff Pandas]

I'd be interested in seeing where this goes, but I have to be honest. This looks doomed for failure.

Ladies & gentlemen...the average boxing fan about anything involving change lol.

Randomly what makes a $125M a year deal to put on the best shows in US boxing over the next 8 years doomed for failure?

As long as people still like money & fans still like boxing this seems like a long term plan to print money if they keep being as aggressive as they been & catching fire in new areas like they have been.

If by this time next year we aren't seeing a sh^tton of DAZN ads in every marketplace trying to get people to flip to the "Netflix of Sports" then yea it might not be looking as up as it does right now, but this is a burn money long term plan thats supposed to take awhile to succeed anyway.

Took Amazon 9, 10 years to have a profit. I wouldn't be surprised, if this is a success, if it takes 5+ years before they are out of the red.

[b00g13man]

Ladies & gentlemen...the average boxing fan about anything involving change lol.

Randomly what makes a $125M a year deal to put on the best shows in US boxing over the next 8 years doomed for failure?

As long as people still like money & fans still like boxing this seems like a long term plan to print money if they keep being as aggressive as they been & catching fire in new areas like they have been.

If by this time next year we aren't seeing a sh^tton of DAZN ads in every marketplace trying to get people to flip to the "Netflix of Sports" then yea it might not be looking as up as it does right now, but this is a burn money long term plan thats supposed to take awhile to succeed anyway.

Took Amazon 9, 10 years to have a profit. I wouldn't be surprised, if this is a success, if it takes 5+ years before they are out of the red.

I was referring to the "biggest ever stable" (the topic of the thread) being doomed for failure. Not the deal itself.

[SkillspayBills]

Hearn is going to have to SIGNIFICANTLY overpay these fighters if he wants them to join DAZN. If he pay is close they will just stick with Haymon and showtime

[Eff Pandas]

I totally agree with you. It wouldn’t be hard either. All it would take is a green light from Big Al Haymon suggesting he endorses or doesn’t mind putting a few of his fighters on Dazn platform just on a fight to fight basis.

True. Even if Haymon is guard dogging his fighters from DAZN for his own PBC venture that may or may not still be legit it would seem like not unlike with a random Arum or HBO deal there could be times when free lancing out a name guy to Hearn's platform would be the move to make.

As of right now fighters already fighting on Showtime do not want to be perceived as a Judas.

For the life of me I still don't get this handshake deal PBC has with Showtime that garners any real loyalty when push comes to shove, but thus far it appears to have done just that. I'll be very curious in the future to know the behind the scenes of this Espinoza & Haymon situation.

However having said that Eddie doesn’t exactly endear himself to his American competitors. Quotes such as i want to have the biggest and most vast stable or I don’t want to make the mistake like PBC is hardly going to charm the guy you actually need to massage his ankles in order to guarantee quality fights throughout the weight categories.

In fairness though in the US promoter sh^ttalking appears to be its own genre of sh^ttaking beyond fighter sh^ttalking so idk if this is a big deal or will matter in any real way.

Fans are fickle. Including myself. You better believe if Errol Spence is fighting on Dazn I am buying it. Likewise with most of ones favourite fighters

Definitely true. But I do think the transition from broadcast TV to DAZN will be a long haul transition for many who are still in the cable world. Getting people from broadcast TV to DAZN, or any OTT platform, is gonna be about more than just who's fighting on DAZN or what TV rights they just signed. The change you are having people make is a bigger change then just switching the channel on their TV.

I'll be watching this transition with very curious eyes & a very curious mind cuz it'll be highly interesting watch what I believe is destined more or less happen slowly, but surely over some undetermined period of time from a couple years to behind a decade.

[Eff Pandas]

I was referring to the "biggest ever stable" (the topic of the thread) being doomed for failure. Not the deal itself.

Ahhh ok.

Randomly question for anyone: Who's gots the biggest world class stable now? And don't say Haymon cuz Haymon is a manager you f#cking dummies.

[Randall Cunning]

Ahhh ok.

Randomly question for anyone: Who's gots the biggest world class stable now? And don't say Haymon cuz Haymon is a manager you f#cking dummies.

Arums got the best stable

[Eff Pandas]

He's locked in to needing to deliver 30 shows though, in an environment where he's not the only person with money looking for boxing content.

Of note he's the guy with the most money right now seemingly doe. Thats not something that should be ignored.

We'll see though. (In a perfect world, Eddie Hearn joins the Haymon orbit, Showtime/CBS keeps their end of the premium content, and Matchroom Sport USA takes over the rest of the PBC deal from Fox Sports for DAZN, with BounceTV keeping their four shows)

LOL Bounce TV. Wtf does Bounce TV have to do with this play? I think you have delved too deeply into all things PBC/Haymon & this is just an example of that. I was big on PBC/Haymon at one point, but they've done less in 3 years then anyone thought I believe. No TV deal. Very lil real direction. No fighter narrative. No central means of talking about PBC news or moves. Its been a clusterf#ck since day 1 & its still a clusterf#ck now. Thats not a good sign.

Although maybe this time next year CBS will throw some $3B 10 year deal at Haymon & I'll look like a dummy & you'll look like a genius for sticking to your guns. I'm definitely betting against that going down doe, but tides have changed a bit with boxing since PBC has been around so who knows what the tide looks like 12 mos from now & maybe Haymon will be the one to maximize his upside of this by then idk.

[Eff Pandas]

Arums got the best stable

Who's got the BIGGEST world class stable was the question bruh.