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  • Buckfever
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    #201
    The assumption is that Canelo and Goldenboy care about saving their image at this point. Unless it hurts their bottom line I doubt it matters to them. By them having to agred to testing, I'd imagine as far as they're concerned the image issue is resolved. Another misstep by team Golovkin IMO.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #202
      Originally posted by R_Walken
      If Canelo doesn’t have 1 judge in the pocket for his fights you must agree with the 1 wide scorecard for his previous fights and just write it off as a abnormality

      Trout 118-110
      Mayweather 114-114
      Lara 117-111
      Cotto 119-109
      Khan 49-46 ( not that it mattered)
      Golovkin 118-110

      with the exception of the Chavez Jr fight in Canelos last 5 fights that went the distance at least 1 scorecaRd was so skewed in Canelos favour that fans and media have questioned its legitimacy

      I guess it’s all just a coincidence , my bad
      again....using common sense and logic....why would the judge in question skew it so out of wack as to draw attention?

      its like me stealing something and leaving my wallet at the scene on purpose

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #203
        Originally posted by R_Walken
        If Canelo doesn’t have 1 judge in the pocket for his fights you must agree with the 1 wide scorecard for his previous fights and just write it off as a abnormality

        Trout 118-110
        Mayweather 114-114
        Lara 117-111
        Cotto 119-109
        Khan 49-46 ( not that it mattered)
        Golovkin 118-110

        with the exception of the Chavez Jr fight in Canelos last 5 fights that went the distance at least 1 scorecaRd was so skewed in Canelos favour that fans and media have questioned its legitimacy

        I guess it’s all just a coincidence , my bad


        the three scores have - on average - varied greatly for the longest time..... THAT, is why we have three judges, not just one

        e.g. split decisions are extremely common, and always have been

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        • R_Walken
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          #204
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          again....using common sense and logic....why would the judge in question skew it so out of wack as to draw attention?

          its like me stealing something and leaving my wallet at the scene on purpose
          It’s not the same because boxing fans are dumb and don’t really care and boxing judges know they won’t be held accountable.

          Why would a judge score a Canelo / Mayweather a draw and a second judge gave him 4 rounds ( did you agree with that score ?) . Why would a judge give Cotto 1 round or Trout 2 or Lara 3 . I’m assuming you are willing to brush those scores off as well just mistakes or being on the wrong side of the ring

          But when it constantly happens every fight in Canelo favour it should make you wonder



          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          the three scores have - on average - varied greatly for the longest time..... THAT, is why we have three judges, not just one

          e.g. split decisions are extremely common, and always have been

          Yes scores vary to some degree and I always assume that the house fighter is basically given 1 judge and that’s why Canelo constantly getting 1 extremely biased score almost every fight sometimes as much as 5 points and routinely 3-4 points from what almost everyone else scores the fight from fans and media doesn’t raise red flags ?

          Come on man just admit history shows Canelo has 1 judge in the pocket every fight and 1 judge giving him all the breaks whether it’s because of corruption or bias or wanting to please the company that butters the judges bread. He doesn’t fight on a level playing field

          Not really hard to get decisions or draws when you have 1 judge already banking you 3-5 rounds and another willing to give you rounds just for showing up

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          • Curt Henning
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            #205
            Originally posted by R_Walken
            It’s not the same because boxing fans are dumb and don’t really care and boxing judges know they won’t be held accountable.

            Why would a judge score a Canelo / Mayweather a draw and a second judge gave him 4 rounds ( did you agree with that score ?) . Why would a judge give Cotto 1 round or Trout 2 or Lara 3 . I’m assuming you are willing to brush those scores off as well just mistakes or being on the wrong side of the ring

            But when it constantly happens every fight in Canelo favour it should make you wonder






            Yes scores vary to some degree and I always assume that the house fighter is basically given 1 judge and that’s why Canelo constantly getting 1 extremely biased score almost every fight sometimes as much as 5 points and routinely 3-4 points from what almost everyone else scores the fight from fans and media doesn’t raise red flags ?

            Come on man just admit history shows Canelo has 1 judge in the pocket every fight and 1 judge giving him all the breaks whether it’s because of corruption or bias or wanting to please the company that butters the judges bread. He doesn’t fight on a level playing field

            Not really hard to get decisions or draws when you have 1 judge already banking you 3-5 rounds and another willing to give you rounds just for showing up
            it is, ABSOLUTELY, the same


            common sense says when you are committing a crime you dont leave identification behind

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              #206
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              It’s not the same because boxing fans are dumb and don’t really care and boxing judges know they won’t be held accountable.

              Why would a judge score a Canelo / Mayweather a draw and a second judge gave him 4 rounds ( did you agree with that score ?) . Why would a judge give Cotto 1 round or Trout 2 or Lara 3 . I’m assuming you are willing to brush those scores off as well just mistakes or being on the wrong side of the ring

              But when it constantly happens every fight in Canelo favour it should make you wonder






              Yes scores vary to some degree and I always assume that the house fighter is basically given 1 judge and that’s why Canelo constantly getting 1 extremely biased score almost every fight sometimes as much as 5 points and routinely 3-4 points from what almost everyone else scores the fight from fans and media doesn’t raise red flags ?

              Come on man just admit history shows Canelo has 1 judge in the pocket every fight and 1 judge giving him all the breaks whether it’s because of corruption or bias or wanting to please the company that butters the judges bread. He doesn’t fight on a level playing field

              Not really hard to get decisions or draws when you have 1 judge already banking you 3-5 rounds and another willing to give you rounds just for showing up


              nah, not really

              look, I get your point.....

              I was with you, when you said this.....

              "I always assume that the house fighter is basically given 1 judge"

              I think that is a slight overstatement, but no real argument there

              but that is a HUGE step to..... "Canelo has 1 judge in the pocket every fight"

              Golovkin couldn't do ****

              he did not cut off the ring, he did not break Canelo down..... he missed a LOT of punches, and he was basically ineffective for large spots in that fight..... truth be known..... underperforming, against a superstar, in Vegas..... Golovkin is probably lucky to keep his titles and get another payday

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              • R_Walken
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                #207
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                it is, ABSOLUTELY, the same


                common sense says when you are committing a crime you dont leave identification behind
                Very few things in boxing rely on common sense

                I don’t think judges care if they rob the bank and leave their wallet ( corrupt judging) because they know there will be no punishment for it just the rewards of continuously being put in big fights


                So you believe that for some strange reason Canelo always seems to have at least 1 incompetent judge in his fights

                That for some odd reason always give Canelo 3-5 more rounds then he deserves

                Come on Mr. Henning don’t be this naive

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                • TonyGe
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by R_Walken
                  If Canelo doesn’t have 1 judge in the pocket for his fights you must agree with the 1 wide scorecard for his previous fights and just write it off as a abnormality

                  Trout 118-110
                  Mayweather 114-114
                  Lara 117-111
                  Cotto 119-109
                  Khan 49-46 ( not that it mattered)
                  Golovkin 118-110

                  with the exception of the Chavez Jr fight in Canelos last 5 fights that went the distance at least 1 scorecaRd was so skewed in Canelos favour that fans and media have questioned its legitimacy

                  I guess it’s all just a coincidence , my bad
                  CJ Ross scoring 114 114 in a fight where Mayweather dominated isn't su****ous to some people

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    it is, ABSOLUTELY, the same


                    common sense says when you are committing a crime you dont leave identification behind
                    You can leave whatever you want behind when the ones in charge are in on it.

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #210
                      Golovkin is behaving like someones little ******ed brother

                      I think someone needs to draw him a roadmap

                      either... fight Canelo, for a FORTUNE... or fight Charlo, for peanuts

                      your call

                      and if Canelo wins the WBO title off Saunders, expect a paycut

                      if you do not fight Canelo now..... you will risk losing everything with Charlo..... and you will risk being offered 20% from the new WBO champ after that

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