Do you think Refs allow too much holding?

[Redd Foxx]

Agreed, let them fight out of clinches, that’s part of the fight game, gpfighting out of clinches!

When Jhonny clinches up on a guest's leg, do you break them up or do you let him hump it out?

[evets]

Seems to me at the minute is half the fighters don't even use it for forcing an infight anymore, it's used by weight bullies to drain smaller guys and by floundering fighters to kill time. There's been some ridiculous fights this year where one guy is holding on to the others arm like a child with a teddy bear and its sad to watch. Refs also tend to be very hit or miss with it.

I also found a very interesting moment of the Loma Rigo fighter was pre fight in the lockers him being very specific in speaking with the ref about clinching and breaking it.

More than 3 times in a round you should be at least said to, although then again some fights this year I have wanted the ref to even tell them to bloody start actually punching.

[Zaroku]

When Jhonny clinches up on a guest's leg, do you break them up or do you let him hump it out?

I let the victim fight him off! It’s happened a lot of times!

One of my homies had this elobarate light blocking head gear, because he read some bull**** somewhere that complete darkness was the best way to sleep......

While we were out, jhonny tore that expensive bandana, with eye coverings and ear coverings apart, then pissed on his pillow!

Jhonny helped him get Japanese tail, but wasn’t compensated properly! Jhonny put Greg in check! It’s that simple!

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Spot on, brother^. Duran was one of the first examples that came to mind. I loved Steve Smoger and the way he'd let fighters grind it out. He let Froch and Ward handle their business and that fight was gritty AF. Tactical and full of exchanges both at range, and on the inside. If it was a different ref, who knows what may have happened. But, when guys are in with a ref like Smoger, they know they can't cry to him for help so they handle their business.

Yeah, I've noticed Smoger would do that, which, as you say, makes a huge difference.