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  • #41
    Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
    Again, pulev is the much easier fight. Ortiz has better defense, more accurate and powerful puncher.

    Stop with the whole wilder is scared of whyte. I didn't know beating bums and barely getting passed chisora gets you a shot at the champ. Besides, wilder is after a fight with Joshua and doesn't see any benefit from fighting, and KO'in Whyte.
    Again Pulev is the much harder fight, younger, more durable, fought better competition so far.

    Stop with the Wilder didn’t duck Whyte, he didn’t know turning down 4m dollars to beat Whyte isn’t ducking, Besides wilder is fighting Breazeale next, don’t see any benefit in denying the ducking.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
      Because the WBC are protecting Wilder from Whyte? They have made the Ortiz/Whyte winner a Secondary mandatory. Basically blocking the winner path to Wilder for another 2 years. Only a ****** would go through that route.
      AJ will have to deal with the WBA and WBO Mando before he has to fight Whyte WBC is still the fastest route to a title shot for him.

      And why would the WBC protect Wilder from Whyte what's so special about him his claim to fame is he landed a shot that had AJ hurt for 10 seconds , WBC ordered Povetkin fight is Whyte better than him?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Phenom View Post
        AJ will have to deal with the WBA and WBO Mando before he has to fight Whyte WBC is still the fastest route to a title shot for him.

        And why would the WBC protect Wilder from Whyte what's so special about him his claim to fame is he landed a shot that had AJ hurt for 10 seconds , WBC ordered Povetkin fight is Whyte better than him?
        You ask Wilder what’s so special about Whyte, to turn down 4million dollars. Fact is fighting Ortiz means waiting another 18 months to 24 months before he gets his shot. It’s a no brainer to go after the pulev fight, anyone saying otherwise isn’t a boxing fan IMHO. We all know Wilder doesn’t want to fight him, no one can deny that.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Ray* View Post
          You ask Wilder what’s so special about Whyte, to turn down 4million dollars. Fact is fighting Ortiz means waiting another 18 months to 24 months before he gets his shot. It’s a no brainer to go after the pulev fight, anyone saying otherwise isn’t a boxing fan IMHO. We all know Wilder doesn’t want to fight him, no one can deny that.
          Realistically how long before the IBF orders AJ v Whyte? Assuming AJ fights twice a year and doesn’t make any voluntary defense

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            Again Pulev is the much harder fight, younger, more durable, fought better competition so far.

            Stop with the Wilder didn’t duck Whyte, he didn’t know turning down 4m dollars to beat Whyte isn’t ducking, Besides wilder is fighting Breazeale next, don’t see any benefit in denying the ducking.
            Lol you're a ******. Pulev BARELY beat chisora and could KO a 37 year old Kevin Johnson. How has he fought the better opposition? Bryant Jennings is better than any guy pulev has beaten, not to mention having a great performance Vs wilder. Don't let ortiz age fool you. He still better than most HW.

            As we learned with the whole broner and hearn situation recently, dont just assume PBC fighters are just making their purse amount. They're making much more than that. With that being said, what makes you think wilder isn't already making $4mil? Wilder turned down the easier fight (Whyte) to fight the biggest boogie man in the div (ortiz) just to eliminate all of joshua's excuses not to fight him.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Phenom View Post
              Realistically how long before the IBF orders AJ v Whyte? Assuming AJ fights twice a year and doesn’t make any voluntary defense
              The IBF are very strict with their mandatories, just like GGG is finding out with Dervy, the WBC are known to be quite...... you know. So I would expect them to call for Joshua to defend within 6 months, The WBC we know are not the most trusted or reliable organisation, they have shown that with this saga. They didn’t have to sanction the Breazeale fight as long as Wilder is willing to fight him. If Wilder refuses to fight Breazeale then they could have mandate him due to the legal issues they claimed they were tied in by the Ortiz/Bermane saga.

              For this Ortiz/Whyte fight to make sense to everyone expect Wilder and his minions all the WBC needs to do is mandate that fight a final eliminator NOT. a second mandatory. Which means after Breazeale, Wilder would have to fight Ortiz/Whyte next unless the AJ fight happens.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
                Lol you're a ******. Pulev BARELY beat chisora and could KO a 37 year old Kevin Johnson. How has he fought the better opposition? Bryant Jennings is better than any guy pulev has beaten, not to mention having a great performance Vs wilder. Don't let ortiz age fool you. He still better than most HW.

                As we learned with the whole broner and hearn situation recently, dont just assume PBC fighters are just making their purse amount. They're making much more than that. With that being said, what makes you think wilder isn't already making $4mil? Wilder turned down the easier fight (Whyte) to fight the biggest boogie man in the div (ortiz) just to eliminate all of joshua's excuses not to fight him.
                Please discuss like an adult, not sure why my opinion makes me a ****** due to who I pick. Again Pulev is the more dangerous fight, he is younger, has a better resume than ortiz.

                Am not going to do Ortiz and Pulev a disservice by ridiculing their opposition but looking at their resumes, Pulev has fought better opposition. Because the easiest thing to do would be me to pick apart Ortiz resume.

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                • #48
                  luis looking old as hell in that photo, but for real i don't think whyte seriously wants this

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                  • #49
                    This is a poorly written and misleading article. Firstly, the Whyte-Ortiz fight is not a Final Eliminator as this writer wants us to believe. WBC did not say that it is a final eliminator. Secondly, we need to to be clear on something, if the fight ever happened, would the winner between Whyte-Ortiz be meeting Wilder or the winner between Wilder-Breazeale? The narrative so far far is that whoever wins will meet Wilder; what if Wilder loses?

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                    • #50
                      All of this to avoid Ortiz. Im talking about the fans. Whyte vs Ortiz is a much better fight than Pulev. F the belts, i want to see the matchups.
                      Pulev should be fighting Miller.
                      Its like you guys make excuses for good fights not to happen. I wont complain either way he goes but i prefer Ortiz

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