Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Waiting For WBC To Make Ruling on Whyte Fight

[1hourRun]

The purse bid was won by a new promotional company, Epic Sports and Entertainment.

In accordance with the guidelines of the IBF, Pulev would receive 75 percent with $1,125,083, while Whyte (23-1, 17 KO) should be satisfied with 25 percent: $ 375,027.

Can someone explain why Pulev gets 75% and Shyte gets 25?

[Redd Foxx]

Absolutely dumb statement! Whyte is justifiably mad at being the number 1 ranked contender and then being told he has to fight, yet again, for a SECOND mandatory spot behind the number 2 ranked contender, who has been gifted mandatory status by the imbecilic WBC.

To recap, Whyte won the WBC Silver Heavyweight Belt and, with it number 1 ranking. He then defended the belt by knocking out 25-0 Lucas Browne. Dominic Breazeale fought (now banned) Eric Molina in what the WBC described as an eliminator (but in a letter to Eddie Hearn, confirmed was NOT a FINAL eliminator), implying Whyte's position as mandatory was preserved. Fast forward to Luis Ortiz v Deontay Wilder, with the former being knocked out. Ortiz is number FOUR on the WBC list (or was.)

All of a sudden, the muppets at the WBC CHANGE THEIR MINDS and make Breazeale the mandatory for Wilder and force their number one ranked fighter and Silver Belt champion, to face their number 4 for what is billed as "second mandatory" position (ie still behind Breazeale, who is behind Whyte in the rankings.)

The WBC had NO TROUBLE taking big sanctioning fees from Whyte for both his fight against Helenius and his fight against Browne. It's like a protection racket.

Whyte, himself, would have no trouble facing Ortiz. He has said so himself BUT, he wants what is rightfully his. If he beats Ortiz he wants to be rightfully returned to the position of Wilder's mandatory.

In his words:

“Deontay Wilder doesn’t want it,” Whyte told iFL TV.

“He keeps coming up with excuses, he keeps trying to put barriers in-between me and him.

“Let’s break this down for the people. He just fought Ortiz, voluntary defence. Ortiz is ranked way below me. You knock him out – how can he just get knocked out in a voluntary defence and automatically he’s back in title contention again? No. When you lose for a world title, you go all the way down. It’s a normal process. When you lose you have to build back again."

If the WBC forces him to take part in the eliminator, Whyte cautions that he will batter and hurt Ortiz.

However, he will only face Ortiz if the WBC stipulates that Wilder must face the winner in a mandatory fight.

“But like I say, if Ortiz wants it, he can have it. But only if Deontay Wilder agrees to fight me next and nobody else. I’ll fight Luis Ortiz and I’ll run through him," Whyte said.

“He’s an old man, I’ll dismantle him. He’ll get tired and I’ll leave him in a bad way. A bad, bad way.”

There is absolutely NOTHING in his words to suggest that he would be afraid to face Ortiz. I'm not saying he'd win. I'm not saying he'd lose. What I AM saying is that it is ludicrous to suggest he is afraid - when his REAL emotion is one of justifiable anger at what that rank amateur organization, the WBC, has done (in the absence of contrary evidence) to protect Wilder from Whyte, coming off the back of his close call with Ortiz, which was, after all, only a voluntary defence.

Didn't read your dissertation. Lol.
He's garbage and anyone with honesty and common sense knows he wants nothing to do with Ortiz. Why? Because Ortiz is far above his level. Don't know what you wrot beyond the first sentence but there's your response.

[Rubber Ducky]

This fight won't happen unless the WBC relents and makes this a final eliminator. I assume Hearn and Whyte are not happy with only getting 25% of the purse vs Pulev and also not winning the bid, all it could take is for the WBC to guarantee the winner a shot at Wilder and this fight could happen.

But that won't happen, Whyte/Pulev will happen and either the WBC admits this whole "2nd mandatory eliminator" is a load of garbage designed to keep Whyte from Wilder or they go through with this made up eliminator. If it's the latter fully expect them to skip over the higher ranked Povetkin and probably Bellew as well and order a fight between Ortiz and another Haymon fighter, most likely Martin or Kownacki.

[Laligalaliga]

Because the WBC are protecting Wilder from Whyte? They have made the Ortiz/Whyte winner a Secondary mandatory. Basically blocking the winner path to Wilder for another 2 years. Only a ****** would go through that route.

Exactly, only a ******.

[Laligalaliga]

Didn't read your dissertation. Lol.
He's garbage and anyone with honesty and common sense knows he wants nothing to do with Ortiz. Why? Because Ortiz is far above his level. Don't know what you wrot beyond the first sentence but there's your response.

another ****** spotted with lack of reading skills.

[Gbenopix]

Didn't read your dissertation. Lol.
He's garbage and anyone with honesty and common sense knows he wants nothing to do with Ortiz. Why? Because Ortiz is far above his level. Don't know what you wrot beyond the first sentence but there's your response.

No matter how you explain to this Wilder and LDBC people,they will never get it,only a ****** will follow the Ortiz route

[Straightener]

This fight won't happen unless the WBC relents and makes this a final eliminator. I assume Hearn and Whyte are not happy with only getting 25% of the purse vs Pulev and also not winning the bid, all it could take is for the WBC to guarantee the winner a shot at Wilder and this fight could happen.

But that won't happen, Whyte/Pulev will happen and either the WBC admits this whole "2nd mandatory eliminator" is a load of garbage designed to keep Whyte from Wilder or they go through with this made up eliminator. If it's the latter fully expect them to skip over the higher ranked Povetkin and probably Bellew as well and order a fight between Ortiz and another Haymon fighter, most likely Martin or Kownacki.

You get it

Your 100% right ...

[Holler]

Absolutely dumb statement! Whyte is justifiably mad at being the number 1 ranked contender and then being told he has to fight, yet again, for a SECOND mandatory spot behind the number 2 ranked contender, who has been gifted mandatory status by the imbecilic WBC.

To recap, Whyte won the WBC Silver Heavyweight Belt and, with it number 1 ranking. He then defended the belt by knocking out 25-0 Lucas Browne. Dominic Breazeale fought (now banned) Eric Molina in what the WBC described as an eliminator (but in a letter to Eddie Hearn, confirmed was NOT a FINAL eliminator), implying Whyte's position as mandatory was preserved. Fast forward to Luis Ortiz v Deontay Wilder, with the former being knocked out. Ortiz is number FOUR on the WBC list (or was.)

All of a sudden, the muppets at the WBC CHANGE THEIR MINDS and make Breazeale the mandatory for Wilder and force their number one ranked fighter and Silver Belt champion, to face their number 4 for what is billed as "second mandatory" position (ie still behind Breazeale, who is behind Whyte in the rankings.)

The WBC had NO TROUBLE taking big sanctioning fees from Whyte for both his fight against Helenius and his fight against Browne. It's like a protection racket.

Whyte, himself, would have no trouble facing Ortiz. He has said so himself BUT, he wants what is rightfully his. If he beats Ortiz he wants to be rightfully returned to the position of Wilder's mandatory.

In his words:

“Deontay Wilder doesn’t want it,” Whyte told iFL TV.

“He keeps coming up with excuses, he keeps trying to put barriers in-between me and him.

“Let’s break this down for the people. He just fought Ortiz, voluntary defence. Ortiz is ranked way below me. You knock him out – how can he just get knocked out in a voluntary defence and automatically he’s back in title contention again? No. When you lose for a world title, you go all the way down. It’s a normal process. When you lose you have to build back again."

If the WBC forces him to take part in the eliminator, Whyte cautions that he will batter and hurt Ortiz.

However, he will only face Ortiz if the WBC stipulates that Wilder must face the winner in a mandatory fight.

“But like I say, if Ortiz wants it, he can have it. But only if Deontay Wilder agrees to fight me next and nobody else. I’ll fight Luis Ortiz and I’ll run through him," Whyte said.

“He’s an old man, I’ll dismantle him. He’ll get tired and I’ll leave him in a bad way. A bad, bad way.”

There is absolutely NOTHING in his words to suggest that he would be afraid to face Ortiz. I'm not saying he'd win. I'm not saying he'd lose. What I AM saying is that it is ludicrous to suggest he is afraid - when his REAL emotion is one of justifiable anger at what that rank amateur organization, the WBC, has done (in the absence of contrary evidence) to protect Wilder from Whyte, coming off the back of his close call with Ortiz, which was, after all, only a voluntary defence.

Good post. When you set it out like that there's no doubt why the IBF route makes more sense. The WBC decision making process is... well let's say it's not ideal for a body purporting to be impartial.

Besides, if AJ Wilder has taken place by then the winner may be fighting for the WBC in any case.

[Straightener]

Good post. When you set it out like that there's no doubt why the IBF route makes more sense. The WBC decision making process is... well let's say it's not ideal for a body purporting to be impartial.

Besides, if AJ Wilder has taken place by then the winner may be fighting for the WBC in any case.

Wbc = pbc belt painfully obvious

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