Comments Thread For: De La Hoya Smiles at Golovkin: Good Luck With Derevyanchenko!

[bluebeam]

Yes, you clowns are under the assumption that you know more about money than these multimillionaire boxers and promoters. These guys are high profile prizefighters who have several opportunities waiting. No one is ****** enough to pass on an obvious good deal if it actually exists. There is a reason you are ****posting out here and not earning that dough. Let the professionals do what they do and take care of their own finances.

you must not follow boxing because it happens all the time.


broner turned down 4 million against pacquiao to go fight Granados for 1 million.

shane mosley turned down 8 million for an immediate rematch with de la hoya. fought antonio diaz instead for 4 times lower than what he was offered for a rematch.

anthony joshua just turned down the biggest purse (50 million) in heavyweight history. all he had to do was come to america. he says he rather make 30 million and fight in the uk.

[ShoulderRoll]

People say that, but GGG has enough money already to ride into the sunset. Plus if he fights BJS he will make numbers closer to what he made with Canelo than with Vanes. GGG is not a diva who only does it for money, he comes across as a guy who is genuinely interested in succeeding as an athlete. I don't believe money is everything for GGG.

He can't fight BJS, he has Derevyanchenko problems.

[hitking]

Above 154 pounds is middleweight or higher.

He was obligated to fight him, his mandatory, but he dropped the belt to avoid him, clenyellow fans have very short memories

This is just not true. Canelo held mw belt. Golovking did not held smw belt.

2 different situations, but both were ducks. The difference was Canelo was fighting in the mw division for yrs. He tried to play the weight game to avoid moving up completely but he only had 1 real fight at jmw in about 3 yrs. He was under no obligation to fight ggg but had no problem calling himself the wbc /lineal mw champion right? Then pouted when the wbc finally forced someone to fight ggg as the mandatory. A mandatory which he knew about since he signed to fight cotto because he was allowed to skip GGG's place in line for that shot. Funny how he had no problem fighting as a super mw vs Chavez all of a sudden after yrs of saying he wasn't ready for mw. Or how he had no problem allowing khan who was ko'd as a light weight and at 140 fight him for a mw championship . Stop defending hypocrisy.

This is the problem with all these belt crazy newbie fight fans nowadays. You let these belt organizations tell you who’s who and what’s what instead of applying a very basic amount of common sense to each individual situation.

Canelo’s “middleweight title reign” was a complete farce. And wasn’t taken seriously by any real fight fan. Politics gave an undeserving Cotto a shot at a one legged Martinez who was cashing out. And the second Cotto captured the title, it essentially became the quasi jr middleweight title.

[nacho daddy]

I use your mom's head on most days, she has that straight hair that tends to clean out those dang dingleberries.

Not every woman has that type of hair, typically whores have it but I don't care for the STD risk. Your mom is a traditional type of woman, just neglected...easy work for me and such a treat.

She loves you though, always telling me how her "special boy" has never done her wrong. I always laugh at how she refers to you as a "special one"....those family connections always add that extra touch.

hey POS who the phuck was talking to you? mind your own business. go die some where

[Jab jab boom]

This is the problem with all these belt crazy newbie fight fans nowadays. You let these belt organizations tell you who’s who and what’s what instead of applying a very basic amount of common sense to each individual situation.

Canelo’s “middleweight title reign” was a complete farce. And wasn’t taken seriously by any real fight fan. Politics gave an undeserving Cotto a shot at a one legged Martinez who was cashing out. And the second Cotto captured the title, it essentially became the quasi jr middleweight title.

so the lineal and wbc mw title title became a quasi jr mw title? Stfu. Canelo or anyone doesn't have the pull to change the status of what a title means. We all know Canelo was fighting at mw and walked in the ring the size of a mw if not bigger. If he chose to use clen to make weight in order to avoid ggg, then so be it but don't justify the ducking at the time by saying he wasn't really a mw. When Canelos career ends, he won't say, oh I was a quasi Jr mw belt holder. He'll say that he was once wbc and lineal mw champion of the world. And with that, he purposefully chose to duck his mandatory who he said he'd fight instead of handing over the belt. But his actions were the opposite.

[hitking]

so the lineal and wbc mw title title became a quasi jr mw title? Stfu. Canelo or anyone doesn't have the pull to change the status of what a title means. We all know Canelo was fighting at mw and walked in the ring the size of a mw if not bigger. If he chose to use clen to make weight in order to avoid ggg, then so be it but don't justify the ducking at the time by saying he wasn't really a mw. When Canelos career ends, he won't say, oh I was a quasi Jr mw belt holder. He'll say that he was once wbc and lineal mw champion of the world. And with that, he purposefully chose to duck his mandatory who he said he'd fight instead of handing over the belt. But his actions were the opposite.

The title was bogus. The belt don’t make champion. The champion makes the belt. There’s not one credible middleweight on Canelo’s resume until he fought GGG. In turn, from about the Trout fight on, damn near very top jr middleweight at the top is who Canelo was fighting. Trout, Lara, and Cotto were top jr middleweights. Mayweather had beaten Cotto. And even guys like Smith, Kirkland, and Angulo were fringe jr middleweights. I don’t know what boxing world you’re living in. But here on planet Earth, it’s very hard for me to recognize a guy as the middleweight champion when his resume is littered with top jr middleweights and not a single fight against a top middleweight. That's just ******.

[animelive]

you must not follow boxing because it happens all the time.


broner turned down 4 million against pacquiao to go fight Granados for 1 million.

shane mosley turned down 8 million for an immediate rematch with de la hoya. fought antonio diaz instead for 4 times lower than what he was offered for a rematch.

anthony joshua just turned down the biggest purse (50 million) in heavyweight history. all he had to do was come to america. he says he rather make 30 million and fight in the uk.

I am sure you have read all about these fighter's contracts and their revenue and profits. Broner literally called Hearn's offer slave contract so once again, I can assure you, he earns enough for you to not worry about his pocket.

[Curt Henning]

you must not follow boxing because it happens all the time.


broner turned down 4 million against pacquiao to go fight Granados for 1 million.

shane mosley turned down 8 million for an immediate rematch with de la hoya. fought antonio diaz instead for 4 times lower than what he was offered for a rematch.

anthony joshua just turned down the biggest purse (50 million) in heavyweight history. all he had to do was come to america. he says he rather make 30 million and fight in the uk.

didnt jmm once turn down some good money to go fight chris john in johns backyard for 35k?

i think winky wright had some notable ones too...hence why fat dan often refers to someone going to the "winky wright school of boxing business" whenever they make what appears to be a dumb decision

[turnedup]

At this point, everyone has decided which side of the fence they’re on as to whether they think Canelo purposely cheated. So nothing anybody says or does is gonna sway anyone.

That said, I still can’t make sense of why a guy moving up in weight would need to seek the aid of a PED used to help cut weight. In the time between his fights with Floyd and GGG, Canelo was often ridiculed for playing his “Caneloweight” game. And if Canelo was cheating, I doubt very seriously that GGG was his first time. And to me, it seems a lot more logical that if this were Canelo’s drug of choice. He would have used it in his Caneloweight fights moreso than his fight against GGG. And he certainly would have used it coming down to 152 for Floyd. The only way I see Canelo having weight issues for GGG is if he bulked up for the Chavez Jr farce and had trouble coming back down to 160. Which is highly unlikely. And if he’s been successfully cheating the system this long. I have a hard time seeing him getting careless this time around.

Personally, I believe he was on something after the Floyd fight, that's just my personal take on it and he's not the only fighter I have thought this of but I don't accuse until there is proof and now we have it. His transformation lines up with the images from people who actually take it openly. Do the before and after pictures and you'll see what I mean in its exact. It's not really taken because you are struggling with weight in most cases, it's the fact that you can cut fat while bulking up, meaning you'd perform stronger because you have higher oxygen levels in your bloodstream and because in doing so you lose no muscle density. For a guy going into a fight angry and wanting to stop his opponent, it makes sense as a drug. Also for a guy with his historical stamina issues him coming on strong at the tail end of the fight should've raised some eyebrows. Moreso because he hasn't had to go 12 rounds in a long time. I personally have not disliked Canelo, have rooted for him during most of his fights, thought he would give Floyd a good fight but then the diva **** started, and suddenly they start testing you earlier than you are used to and you piss dirty.

[BLACK KNOT]

He can't fight BJS, he has Derevyanchenko problems.

unification trumps mandatories.