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  • killakali
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    #261
    Originally posted by Dip_Slide
    Who was an A level fighter that Broner faced after the Shawn Porter loss? Mikey Garcia moving up?

    He faced solid fighters though, I wouldn't call them bums, but he knows he's a loss away from being absolutely irrelevant and because he faced and lost to all the good fighters he faced I still think he's not willing to risk losing again for the type of money Hearn is offering him.

    If he accepts the deal he gives up his A side privilges to his promoter and he has to fight whoever his promoter puts in there with, I don't think Hearn would offer Broner fights nobody wants to see, he's probably gonna match him tough to make it worthwhile and I don't think that's what Broner would want right now.
    What are you talking about losing his A side privileges if he signs with a promoter. Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

    So Canelo doesn't have "A side privileges" because he has a promoter? LMAO. How about Anthony Joshua in all of his fights. Hell he even got the Klitschko fight at home. So Terence Crawford wasn't A side vs Indongo? LMAOOOOO or GGG in all of his fights except vs Canelo.

    That is the dumbest thing i have heard. The list goes on and on. Broner being an A side has nothing to with not having a promoter. It has to do with his drawing power and ability to be promoted.

    He also wouldn't have to "fight who his promoter says to fight". There are always options for any fighter as to who they fight and fighting Shawn Porter and Granados probably weren't the best decisions at the time but he still fought them.

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      #262
      Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy
      Shut the he-ll up! bring proof/facts or GTFOH, specially now that Haymon ran out of money
      Where is your proof that Haymon ran out of money?


      if he does not disclosed full purses do your feeble mind don't think the IRS would look into it, and charge him for it?
      AB Promotions is hired to supply AB. Then AB promotions hires AB to fight. AB Promotions is paid millions to supply AB and then AB promotions hires AB for one million to fight. This way, the local commission and the sanctioning bodies are only taxing a one million purse instead of a multimillion purse.

      In addition, now AB promotions is paying corporate tax at a lower rate than AB would be paying if he was paid his full purse directly.

      This is how business works when millions of dollars are involved. There's nothing illegal about it.

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        #263
        Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy
        Shut the he-ll up! bring proof/facts or GTFOH, specially now that Haymon ran out of money, and he is more dependent on TV deals than ever. plus if he does not disclosed full purses do your feeble mind don't think the IRS would look into it, and charge him for it?
        ****** as long as he reports his real earnings with the irs then he’s fine. Seem like Haymon still has more than Hearn lol Hearn was surprised at that 50million. He thought he was going to lowball Wilder and keep all the money lol. I’ll bring you proof when you bring when you bring me proof

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        • Dip_Slide
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          #264
          Originally posted by killakali
          What are you talking about losing his A side privileges if he signs with a promoter. Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

          So Canelo doesn't have "A side privileges" because he has a promoter? LMAO. How about Anthony Joshua in all of his fights. Hell he even got the Klitschko fight at home. So Terence Crawford wasn't A side vs Indongo? LMAOOOOO or GGG in all of his fights except vs Canelo.

          That is the dumbest thing i have heard. The list goes on and on. Broner being an A side has nothing to with not having a promoter. It has to do with his drawing power and ability to be promoted.

          He also wouldn't have to "fight who his promoter says to fight". There are always options for any fighter as to who they fight and fighting Shawn Porter and Granados probably weren't the best decisions at the time but he still fought them.
          Why is this so hard for some people to understand? When you have a promoter that wants to give you a fixed amount of money per fight for a number of fights, he has to make sure that the fights make him that kind of money and then some so that he can get paid himself. This means if Hearn wants to pay Broner 3 mil the fight has to make 3.5+ mil so that everyone gets paid. who can Adrien fight who's not a dangerous fight that can make that kind of money guaranteed? no easy fights I tell you that for sure.

          Broner promotes himself and he can pick and choose to fight anyone he wants and he still makes decent money, not necessarily what Hearn is offering him, but if he keeps winning he makes more money in 5 easy fights than he'd make with Hearn in 3 tough fights. Hearn will give him options, but what if he doesn't wanna fight any of them and now he's stuck in a contract like Mikey Garcia or Andre Ward and the list goes on and on, why the hell would he do that if the money isn't good enough?

          Broner is banking on him one day building 1 fight up so high that he makes retirement money in that 1 fight and to get there he needs to have a nice win streak leading up to that, signing with Hearn and making 6 mil in 3 fights and probably losing would stop him from making that 1 big payday.

          Back to your point about Canelo etc.., Canelo and AJ are big ppv stars, they get a percentage of the PPV, they're the promoter's main money makers so he can't put a cap on their earnings per fight, if the fight makes good money fighters get paid well and vice versa, when the promoter puts that kind of cap on you though, you have to accept all terms and do what you're told, that's what I meant by not being the A side anymore, nothing to do with who decides who the ref is, where the fight takes place or who walks out first.

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          • SUBZER0ED
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            #265
            Originally posted by Leonbus2
            Perhaps you need to understand profit margin. It seems like a lot to us working class folks, but in proportion to what Hearn and DANZ makes, it's exploitation of the worker who has to get punches to the head.
            Hey, Broner chose boxing, boxing didn't choose him. If he wants to make a ton of money, he has to win those big fights to raise his stock.

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            • killakali
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              #266
              Originally posted by Dip_Slide
              Why is this so hard for some people to understand? When you have a promoter that wants to give you a fixed amount of money per fight for a number of fights, he has to make sure that the fights make him that kind of money and then some so that he can get paid himself. This means if Hearn wants to pay Broner 3 mil the fight has to make 3.5+ mil so that everyone gets paid. who can Adrien fight who's not a dangerous fight that can make that kind of money guaranteed? no easy fights I tell you that for sure.

              Broner promotes himself and he can pick and choose to fight anyone he wants and he still makes decent money, not necessarily what Hearn is offering him, but if he keeps winning he makes more money in 5 easy fights than he'd make with Hearn in 3 tough fights. Hearn will give him options, but what if he doesn't wanna fight any of them and now he's stuck in a contract like Mikey Garcia or Andre Ward and the list goes on and on, why the hell would he do that if the money isn't good enough?

              Broner is banking on him one day building 1 fight up so high that he makes retirement money in that 1 fight and to get there he needs to have a nice win streak leading up to that, signing with Hearn and making 6 mil in 3 fights and probably losing would stop him from making that 1 big payday.

              Back to your point about Canelo etc.., Canelo and AJ are big ppv stars, they get a percentage of the PPV, they're the promoter's main money makers so he can't put a cap on their earnings per fight, if the fight makes good money fighters get paid well and vice versa, when the promoter puts that kind of cap on you though, you have to accept all terms and do what you're told, that's what I meant by not being the A side anymore, nothing to do with who decides who the ref is, where the fight takes place or who walks out first.
              This is wrong. When you sign a promotional deal you have minimums in your contract. That doesn't mean you take that for "tough fights" and "easy fights". That is a starting point.

              Here is an example: Terence Crawford got 2.1 mil for Indongo. He is getting $3mil for Horn. He is the clear "A" side in both fights yet is making more on one than the other. Just because you have a promoter doesn't mean you have to take certain fights or certain purses. That isn't how the business works.

              Broner is far from his own promoter. He doesn't even have a staff. Broner barely even finally put content on his website for his company. Broner has a promotional company for a tax shelter. Thats it. Why do you think Mayweather Promotions and DiBella promoted his fight vs Vargas? Because Broner can't put on a show.

              Broner isn't taking easy fights for big paydays now. Look at his last fights. Vargas and Granados were life and death fights for good but not great paydays. Theophane is his only easy fight in recent times.

              Broner should know that contract is a starting point. I am sure he could squeeze more money out of each fight in the deal and have an even better deal that what was offered plus the activity is guaranteed which is almost as important

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              • woo9115
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                #267
                6.75 million... Who is this Broner guy calling it a slave deal. Oh, he was a former champion who has lost several of his last fights. Oh, he was suppose to be the next Floyd. I know who Floyd is... Exactly... Shut up and take the 6.75M.... You are not a world class boxer. Just a no class boxer from the getgo....

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                • Mimms
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                  #268
                  Broner possibly makes 5-6 million a fight

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