Comments Thread For: Joshua: Not Really Interested in Povetkin, I Hope Wilder Happens

[5000boxing]

Joshua lost a total of 8 rounds ....with all those four combined and never behind .

Thats 40 rounds total in all but one fight that was actually competitive .


You know how many rounds Wilder lost so far in title fights ? Against Washinton alone he dropped 4 , 7 with Ortiz ....thats only 2 fights and ELEVEN rnds lost in fights he was behind in .

Thats 11 rounds lost for Wilder in a total of 15 rnds combined ?

Its not even comparable to Joshuas dominating fights even though i still handicapped it in Wilders favor with less rounds against his best opponents .

You could include Breazeale too where Joshua won EVERY rnd which actually makes Joshua losing 8 rnds out of 47 too Wilders 11 rnds lost out of 15 rnds in TWO fights . I'll even give Wilder the Stiverne fight title defense and make it 11 lost rnds out of 16 .



And actually Wilder struggled in all his title defenses but Stiverne and Arreola ? lol


And the only reason Joshua lost about 8 rounds was dropping some to Klitchko who would have knocked Wilder out .


You dont think claiming Joshua ducked Ortiz is false ?


Well then your just plain lying .

Omg.. what are you arguing? I never said wilder was a superior boxer.. it don't matter.. his right hand is deadly. Its the ultimate equalizer.. regardless of his opponents skill level.. which is why in my opinion he would stop joshua just as fast as stiverne.. probably in the 1st round. AJ has no head movement.. and his chin is made out of sheetrock. Wilder has never been down. AJ has.. that's the difference in character.

[What up]

I will believe it when it's all signed up lol

[Jimmy gold]

Wilder ****riders. Attention please are y’all done gobbling wilder nuts ? We’re is the fakest champion in the world hiding at? attention wilder ****riders AJ will ko tha Alabama twig black that paper champion in half lol

[Kezzer]

You don't sound like you do.. joshua struggled with klitschko, takam, whyte and parker... which are his best opponents.. so.. what false points?

Let’s talk about those four then. Firstly, and quite importantly , you could have an argument to say all four are tougher than any opponent wilder has had. The only debatable one would be Ortiz really but even he actually hasn’t proven himself if you look at his record , and again he troubled Wilder - some to the extent there were calls the ref should have stopped the fight & others around controversy around extra “doctor” time.

Now if you look at those four fights of Joshua, firstly 3 of the 4 (whyte, Klitschko and Parker) you could easily argue cane very early in his career - certainly compared to Wilder who would probably only be considering those fights now. Some like Whyte @ Klitschko he has openly refused to fight.

Parker and Takam to be quite honest were soundly beaten, the only disappointment was the lack of knock-out Joshua had set expectations for. Whyte rocked Joshua in a trade, but ultimately he case through to win. Klitschko clearly is a HOF and came the closest to stop Joshua, which even if he had, you would still regard joshua was one of top elites in the division.

So hard to really understand any argument you had in summary. Just because Wilder is much less proven doesn’t mean he isn’t capable I should add, but resume wise Joshua has only really been challenged by klitschko, and rocked by Whyte. Wilder has been rocked by far inferior including the likes of Molina.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Nice, but you have to fight Povetkin first or you lose one belt.

[kafkod]

Funny... this is sarcasm.. but.. to be honest an fair.. they both haven't fought any elite heavyweights.. but who's elite? I would definitely say that ortiz is probably the best.. an wilder fought him.. an destroyed him.. AJ ducked ortiz.. that's the difference. One is a fighter.. the other is a scared eunich!!!

Top competitors are elite .


You just cant be Joe Shmoe and be on a world stage UNLESS you arent actually a top 10 fighter .


Which in this case gives Wilder ONE top level guy and Joshua a few .


Wilder didnt destroy anyone but Stiverne in title fights without struggling.


Unless you think that guys elite than you have problems bc Ortiz is the only actual elite fighter hes faced , a VERY old one .


Ortiz DUCKED a guaranteed fight with Joshua by fighting Wilder.


You guys can push false points on here all you want but not with me , i actually follow whats going on .

Ortiz was AJ's mando, next in line after Pulev and before Povetkin. All that fat, over-rated cheat needed to do was keep off the PEDs and he would have got his shot.

Only in boxing does a champion get called a ducker because somebody else gets caught cheating. It happened to Wilder with Povetkin, AJ with Ortiz, and now Canelo's team are trying to pull the same trick with GGG.

[Ray*]

Nice, but you have to fight Povetkin first or you lose one belt.

Nope he wouldn't lose a belt if he fights Wilder next (Unification).

[juggernaut666]

Omg.. what are you arguing? I never said wilder was a superior boxer.. it don't matter.. his right hand is deadly. Its the ultimate equalizer.. regardless of his opponents skill level.. which is why in my opinion he would stop joshua just as fast as stiverne.. probably in the 1st round. AJ has no head movement.. and his chin is made out of sheetrock. Wilder has never been down. AJ has.. that's the difference in character.

Again you are making things up and it wont work here bc i follow boxing .

Wilder HAS been down against Sconiers and unofficially against Nichols bc his knee touched the canvas and was buckled by Molina where he had to turtle up briefly , isnt that the sameguy Joshua toyed with and knocked out in 3 rnds ?

So why are you talking about chins ?


Character is someone who can get up and still win a fight when hurt . Character is someone able to actually take Klitchko punches and have to survive rnds hes never fought in while testing his stamina at his highest weight and finishes a fight in the championship rnds and does this in his 19th fight .


Sorry but you dont seem to know what you're talking about .


You implied Joshua STRUGGLED against opponents when i just showed you who ACTUALLY struggled and it was Wilder and against lesser guys some like Szpilka who won the first half rounds before getting caught , i didnt even include .


What you did by listing Joshua opposition is just reinforce how weak Wilders resume is .


You didnt like the previous post i gave you bc it showed Joshua not actually struggling so now you moved on to you arent refuting who the better boxer is bc Wilder has a right hand and by all this you came tothe conclusion that Joshua will get knocked out in one rnd bc of Stiverne who didnt fight for two years and shouldn't have even defeated Rossey his fight years prior to Wilder ? O.K then !


So which is it ? Are you conceding Joshua struggled less or he has fought better opposition ? Both ?

[juggernaut666]

Ortiz was AJ's mando, next in line after Pulev and before Povetkin. All that fat, over-rated cheat needed to do was keep off the PEDs and he would have got his shot.

Only in boxing does a champion get called a ducker because somebody else gets caught cheating. It happened to Wilder with Povetkin, AJ with Ortiz, and now Canelo's team are trying to pull the same trick with GGG.

"Ortiz was AJ's mando, next in line after Pulev and before Povetkin. All that fat, over-rated cheat needed to do was keep off the PEDs and he would have got his shot. "


All Ortiz had to do was wait for Joshua to defeat Takam and stay put .


Wheather or not Ortiz is allowed to take blood pressure meds is another matter if he fights Joshua ?


Lets not forget Ortiz didnt actually pass his pre fight physical bc of HIGH blood pressure the night of facing Wilder and Breazeale almost took his place hrs before the decision was made bc Ortiz was not allowed his medication .

[Curt Henning]

hes really not interested in povetkin just so u guys know....so when he does fight povetekin you fanboys can just know that this wasnt what he really wanted! -wink wink-