if ward were still active....p4p

[Curt Henning]

he doesnt mean you have to be undefeated to be p4p number 1.

he is saying there are guys like crawford who is undefeated became undisputed and is aiming at his 3rd weight class without losing.

canelo who loma has lost more recent than and who hasnt lost to anybody except the greatest of the last 15 years.

GGG who is undefeated through double digit title defenses.

ward undefeated and took out the top dog at 168 and 175 to become the top dog.

Mikey who has won titles in more weight classes than loma without losing

he is just saying that guys with better resumes like canelo and undefeated fighters like crawford and ward could be p4p 1 instead of loma.

exactly...you have to realize chris is a bit sensitive when it comes to his lil buddy loma

[Curt Henning]

Damn Curt, I don't think this thread went the way you thought it would

no its going about how i figured it would...i mean...i would still rate ward ahead of loma under those circumstances

on eye test alone i dunno if theres a guy i would put ahead of loma...but thats not my only p4p criteria

i think loma lays claim to it right now because hes just here at just the right time....golovkins resume is still rather weak and has a draw with canelo...canelo cant lay claim to it either...kovalev, while bouncing back, was stopped....i just think loma is gaining steam at just the right time

but i think if ward were still around and unbeaten loma might still have to take a backseat.....that was my point...i wasnt trying to get anyone to bash ward or prop loma over him and create a ****storm...honestly

[Madison Boxing]

hed reclaim his throne as the p4p number 1 most dirty and boring fighter in boxing.

[Curt Henning]

my point was/is

nobody really clearly stands out...if ward were still active and unbeaten he would probably be a near obvious choice...if kovalev had knocked ward out in either fight he would probably be an obvious #1.....but theres no real clear guy so loma kinda gets it based on eye test

[abracada]

say ward didn't retire....and lets say he has had two fights since then

maybe a 175 filler and Adonis chickenson?

or a 175 filler and maybe bellew at cruiser

would either of those scenarios still call him p4p #1 or do you think loma would be there?

After how he handled Kovalev, YES

[4truth]

After how he handled Kovalev, YES

Actually, it's the "how" that is the problem.

[uppercut510]

there would be a hell of a lot of negative threads from a particular group of people if ward was still active

[Curt Henning]

there would be a hell of a lot of negative threads from a particular group of people if ward was still active

"hes afraid to fight kovalev a 4th time"

"never leaves america"

"he doesnt sell"

wah wah wah...lol

this wasnt really a ward ****sucking thread...not meant to be...i just dont think there are any real standouts for p4p #1....i mean..like i said loma gets it on the eyetest for sure....but i think in a different time loma takes a clear cut back seat to a few guys

same thing if kovalev had knocked ward out in the rematch...he'd prob be a clear cut #1

[just the facts]

hed reclaim his throne as the p4p number 1 most dirty and boring fighter in boxing.

This scum bag is so butt hurt over his love interest (lil g) ducking a Ward fight he posted that Ward was a wife beater and had the links to prove it. I've pressed him hard for those links and to date he has produced ZERO. Hell last week he posted that Ward only retired to get on PEDS and would be back when he was clean. Give no credit to anything this idiot posts

[uppercut510]

"hes afraid to fight kovalev a 4th time"

"never leaves america"

"he doesnt sell"

wah wah wah...lol

this wasnt really a ward ****sucking thread...not meant to be...i just dont think there are any real standouts for p4p #1....i mean..like i said loma gets it on the eyetest for sure....but i think in a different time loma takes a clear cut back seat to a few guys

same thing if kovalev had knocked ward out in the rematch...he'd prob be a clear cut #1

indeed bro!!!!!!!