Loma is the truth, no way anyone can't give him props

[Curt Henning]

you have guys with kovalev as high as 4...a couple of them....and one guy with him at 5...then a few guys that don't list him at all......are those guys all biased?

[Raggamuffin]

You aren't everyone, and you aren't no one. There is absolutely nothing special about you at all.

Im not the one crawling around under alts giving red K to those who I disgree with you ****en wimp.

[chrisJS]

you have guys with kovalev as high as 4...a couple of them....and one guy with him at 5...then a few guys that don't list him at all......are those guys all biased?

Yeah, they probably are. Kovalev based on a consensus is rated around 7 or 8 which I disagree with but see as fair to a degree. Like I said lists can tend to get more inaccurate down the bottom half but usually the top 2-3 is generally in most touch with reality hence the consistent high rating on every list of Loma, Golovkin and Crawford. The three best boxers in the world currently. My personal list would be 1. Loma 2. Crawford and then some distance 3. Golovkin and then it gets messy and I can accept almost any order of 4. Inoue 5. Usyk (I'd say he's a firm 3 or 4 IF he beats Gassiev) 6. Garcia 7. Rungvisai 8. Estrada 9. Gassiev 10. Spence

Like I said the second part gets messy and really could be any order but I'm firm on the top 3-4.

[TonyGe]

Yeah, they probably are. Kovalev based on a consensus is rated around 7 or 8 which I disagree with but see as fair to a degree. Like I said lists can tend to get more inaccurate down the bottom half but usually the top 2-3 is generally in most touch with reality hence the consistent high rating on every list of Loma, Golovkin and Crawford. The three best boxers in the world currently. My personal list would be 1. Loma 2. Crawford and then some distance 3. Golovkin and then it gets messy and I can accept almost any order of 4. Inoue 5. Usyk (I'd say he's a firm 3 or 4 IF he beats Gassiev) 6. Garcia 7. Rungvisai 8. Estrada 9. Gassiev 10. Spence

Like I said the second part gets messy and really could be any order but I'm firm on the top 3-4.

I put Golovkin #1. Why? He's beaten everyone out in front of him provided you believe he beat Canelo. I do. Has a very high KO ratio. He's been at this level for a very long time. He's fought numerous top 10 and better contenders. Crushed almost all of the even though several were expected to give him competitive fights.

[Raggamuffin]

I put Golovkin #1. Why? He's beaten everyone out in front of him provided you believe he beat Canelo. I do. Has a very high KO ratio. He's been at this level for a very long time. He's fought numerous top 10 and better contenders. Crushed almost all of the even though several were expected to give him competitive fights.

You can’t pick GG number 1. He didn’t climb 3 weight classes, he didn’t beat a lineal champion, or beat guys who more or less had 1 or two good wins on their resume. And GG...even though he didn’t lose, lost to Canelo and Jacobs. Loma pfp #1. How did I come to picking Loma over GG. I combined 3 boxing sites rankings and came up with 1 consistent list.

[TonyGe]

You can’t pick GG number 1. He didn’t climb 3 weight classes, he didn’t beat a lineal champion, or beat guys who more or less had 1 or two good wins on their resume. And GG...even though he didn’t lose, lost to Canelo and Jacobs. Loma pfp #1. How did I come to picking Loma over GG. I combined 3 boxing sites rankings and came up with 1 consistent list.

P4P lists are extremely subjective. I don't believe moving up in weight is the be all and end all. Some weight class historically easier to move up from. There is a good article out there explaining how rare it is for reigning middleweight champions to move up. Historically it's much more common for members of lighter classes to move up. Monzon never moved up. Hagler never moved up. Holding the lineal title is a joke usually. It's just a way to sell tickets a promotors dream..

[Raggamuffin]

P4P lists are extremely subjective. I don't believe moving up in weight is the be all and end all. Some weight class historically easier to move up from. There is a good article out there explaining how rare it is for reigning middleweight champions to move up. Historically it's much more common for members of lighter classes to move up. Monzon never moved up. Hagler never moved up. Holding the lineal title is a joke usually. It's just a way to sell tickets a promotors dream..

Good post...

[Curt Henning]

Yeah, they probably are. Kovalev based on a consensus is rated around 7 or 8 which I disagree with but see as fair to a degree. Like I said lists can tend to get more inaccurate down the bottom half but usually the top 2-3 is generally in most touch with reality hence the consistent high rating on every list of Loma, Golovkin and Crawford. The three best boxers in the world currently. My personal list would be 1. Loma 2. Crawford and then some distance 3. Golovkin and then it gets messy and I can accept almost any order of 4. Inoue 5. Usyk (I'd say he's a firm 3 or 4 IF he beats Gassiev) 6. Garcia 7. Rungvisai 8. Estrada 9. Gassiev 10. Spence

Like I said the second part gets messy and really could be any order but I'm firm on the top 3-4.

depending on the view...you could call either side bias though...the guys that have kovalev at 4 and 5...or the guys that dont even have him on the list...depending on your view...and its all subjective...just like who puts more weight on certain criteria when scoring a fight

[Shape up]

Go crawl under your Red K alt mother****er. Loma is 5th pfp on my list. We didn’t forget the Salido debacle. Keep crying you ****en loser.

Again, where is 1 fighter that has the same resume after 12 fights, if you can find one, admit it and give credit where it is due

[Lomasexual]

Im not the one crawling around under alts giving red K to those who I disgree with you ****en wimp.

I don't have any alt accounts. I'm happy for the mods to run any kind of check they want to prove that.

This explains your position on the whole Loma thing. You aggressively believe in things which are false.

I haven't given you any red K. Not yet, anyway. I'm thinking that simply being yourself and having zero credibility is probably bad enough.