Loma is the truth, no way anyone can't give him props

[Lomasexual]

Let me see if Loma has united titles or fought any lineal champions. Nope, I just checked. But I’m biased because I don’t ride with Loma being ranked 1 or 2 pfp when he’s 5th on my list lmao. 5th isn’t bad but it’s bad to you Lomasexuals...

When you rank the guy 4 or 5 places below where the rest of the boxing word ranks him, then yes you are biased. By definition.

But of course, I'm sure that just about every single boxing expert on the planet is wrong and some random troll on the internet is right.

[Raggamuffin]

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue with regards to his first 12 fights. Are you saying that he is the best ever because of that? Are you saying that he is already an ATG?

Though I do believe he should be considered the P4P best right now, like you said, that's opinion based. He is on my list as #1, but not on others, and I think arguments can be made that he isn't.

But to put so much weigh on his first 12 opponents knowing his situation completely doesn't do it for me. He had a very extensive amateur background and he's what...already 30? You can find reasons to criticize most of his best wins. You have to admit that.

Still, like I said, I do think he is p4p at the moment, but I think you're giving far too much weight to his first 12 opponents feat. The whole reason that happened is because he was already primed for it. There's a reason Top Rank went this route with Loma, but not Shakur Stevenson, for example.

Very good post. Now maybe he can stfu.

[Raggamuffin]

When you rank the guy 4 or 5 places below where the rest of the boxing word

Word? Really “word”. He’s 5th on my list. Live with it. I am everyone and I am no one.

[chrisJS]

espns list must be biased...since it doesn't jive with the others

Yeah, towards the bottom it is. It's more likely a list towards the bottom to be wrong or different and the top of the lists to be more accurate that's generally how most lists work.

A solid reference is combining all three lists and the general consensus of the average Boxing fan.

I disagree with GGG's placement at #2 on average as I consider Crawford clearly superior but it is what it is. We are all one place apart. This dude has Loma #5 when his consensus and universal rank is #1 that's quite far from reality.

[Raggamuffin]

don't mind chris....he likes to call everyone else "biased" but swears he isn't biased at all...hes one of those guys

hes calling espns list as something official....yet it has wilder at 8....and he thinks wilder is absolute trash

so naturally your opinion must be biased

Posters need to stick to their guns more and don’t cave in to these stat boys.

[Curt Henning]

Yeah, towards the bottom it is. It's more likely a list towards the bottom to be wrong or different and the top of the lists to be more accurate that's generally how most lists work.

A solid reference is combining all three lists and the general consensus of the average Boxing fan.

I disagree with GGG's placement at #2 on average as I consider Crawford clearly superior but it is what it is. We are all one place apart. This dude has Loma #5 when his consensus and universal rank is #1 that's quite far from reality.

youre gonna have to find another list and remove espns from your consensus rankings....clearly espn is biased unless you can find me a couple of other "credible" lists with wilder in top 10

[Raggamuffin]

Cool. But Gamboa's, Diaz', Beltran's etc; are enough for you. Got it.

No you don’t “got it” red K cry baby. There is no Salido loss either. Mad because he’s 5th on my list, lmao.

[Lomasexual]

Word? Really “word”. He’s 5th on my list. Live with it. I am everyone and I am no one.

You aren't everyone, and you aren't no one. There is absolutely nothing special about you at all. You are simply a biased troll, who gets his jollies out of saying ****** things.

Perhaps you should download some self-help tapes, and build your self esteem. Then you won't need to say silly things to try to get attention.

[chrisJS]

youre gonna have to find another list and remove espns from your consensus rankings....clearly espn is biased unless you can find me a couple of other "credible" lists with wilder in top 10

I just started a thread. Leo Santa Cruz, Canelo, Kovalev, Usyk, Rigo, Thurman are 5 other fighters only on one list each but I put into order the consensus average.

Most said TBRB was the most credible when it didn't have a European at the top. That now Loma at the top and it also rates Joshua and not Wilder. I think a good balance is to combine all three. You would disagree with that or do you just chose the individual list or ranking you prefer for your own biased reasons?

[Curt Henning]

I just started a thread. Leo Santa Cruz, Canelo, Kovalev, Usyk, Rigo, Thurman are 5 other fighters only on one list each but I put into order the consensus average.

Most said TBRB was the most credible when it didn't have a European at the top. That now Loma at the top and it also rates Joshua and not Wilder. I think a good balance is to combine all three. You would disagree with that or do you just chose the individual list or ranking you prefer for your own biased reasons?

i make my own list...but I realize it really doesn't mean ****...its just my opinion....and I have loma at or near the top....but I guess I'm just biased

just because someone doesn't have loma #1 or #2 doesn't mean they aren't credible or biased...its just an opinion

its no different than scoring a fight...differnet people weight different things more heavily than others.....its not like the guy had loma out of the top 10...or at 10.....

look at how espn compiles their rankings.....voting from a consensus of writers/personalities that vote and rank 1-10...some of those guys have some wacky rankings of their own....they usually show how those guys vote too...and iirc there are some guys with some wacky rankings that don't jive with most of the others....do we have to call those guys biased? or do they just have a variance in opinion? I remember not long ago some guys had loma way down the line