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  • BillyBoxing
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    Topic about loma getting dropped : right hands being southpaws nightmare

    I wasn't surprised about this. And Loma better work on this, he's no superman and it was a good wake up call.



    Southpaws tends to get dropped by right hands if their defense isn't perfect or they go careless. Southpaws are most of the time involved in "clash of stances" versus orthodox fighters and so are vulnerable to their opponents right/stronger hand (just like orthodox fighters are vulnerable to SP's stronger left hand).

    Boxing history has good examples with the left handed greats:

    -Manny getting slept by a JMM right hand .
    -Moore got put to sleep by a big Georges straight right.
    -Sweet pea got dropped by a Roger May right hand.
    -Calzaghe got dropped by a B Hop, Mitchell and Roys right hand.

    Regarding Loma, he better take a page of sweet pea's D.
    Pernell suffered a lot of KD early in his career, Roger May but also versus Williams and Layne, he ended as one of the most uncatchable fighter of all time.

    Loma better fix some stuff cuz right now he's not really passing the Mickey test TBH.
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    Mate, it's major flaw of the stance. And it's basics, yet it happened with Loma and even Pac..

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #3
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      I wasn't surprised about this. And Loma better work on this, he's no superman and it was a good wake up call.



      Southpaws tends to get dropped by right hands if their defense isn't perfect or they go careless. Southpaws are most of the time involved in "clash of stances" versus orthodox fighters and so are vulnerable to their opponents right/stronger hand (just like orthodox fighters are vulnerable to SP's stronger left hand).

      Boxing history has good examples with the left handed greats:

      -Manny getting slept by a JMM right hand .
      -Moore got put to sleep by a big Georges straight right.
      -Sweet pea got dropped by a Roger May right hand.
      -Calzaghe got dropped by a B Hop, Mitchell and Roys right hand.

      Regarding Loma, he better take a page of sweet pea's D.
      Pernell suffered a lot of KD early in his career, Roger May but also versus Williams and Layne, he ended as one of the most uncatchable fighter of all time.

      Loma better fix some stuff cuz right now he's not really passing the Mickey test TBH.
      This is an excellent post but you probably won't get a lot responses because you're being somewhat critical of Lomachenko. However you're absolutely right. Lomachenko has to fix this but I'm not sure how he can do it. The reason I say that is because it's hard to change when he has the kind of success he's been having. Everything comes easy to him. I don't like that he's saying he was too relaxed. Yes he was but he always does that when he thinks he's in control of a fight. All it takes is for someone to land that perfect punch. I guarantee Mikey Garcia can land that punch and it will be a lot harder.

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      • TonyGe
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        Originally posted by HarvardBlue
        This is an excellent post but you probably won't get a lot responses because you're being somewhat critical of Lomachenko. However you're absolutely right. Lomachenko has to fix this but I'm not sure how he can do it. The reason I say that is because it's hard to change when he has the kind of success he's been having. Everything comes easy to him. I don't like that he's saying he was too relaxed. Yes he was but he always does that when he thinks he's in control of a fight. All it takes is for someone to land that perfect punch. I guarantee Mikey Garcia can land that punch and it will be a lot harder.
        Mikey is just too big for him. Lomo can outbox him but one punch from Garcia and it's over. Garcia is a very good fighter so there is no way he won't land on Lomo's chin. Can't see Lomo beating him but you never know.

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        • Larry the boss
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          Straight right, Left hook are the 2 shots that kill Southpaws

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          • buddyr
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            #6
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing
            I wasn't surprised about this. And Loma better work on this, he's no superman and it was a good wake up call.



            Southpaws tends to get dropped by right hands if their defense isn't perfect or they go careless. Southpaws are most of the time involved in "clash of stances" versus orthodox fighters and so are vulnerable to their opponents right/stronger hand (just like orthodox fighters are vulnerable to SP's stronger left hand).

            Boxing history has good examples with the left handed greats:

            -Manny getting slept by a JMM right hand .
            -Moore got put to sleep by a big Georges straight right.
            -Sweet pea got dropped by a Roger May right hand.
            -Calzaghe got dropped by a B Hop, Mitchell and Roys right hand.

            Regarding Loma, he better take a page of sweet pea's D.
            Pernell suffered a lot of KD early in his career, Roger May but also versus Williams and Layne, he ended as one of the most uncatchable fighter of all time.

            Loma better fix some stuff cuz right now he's not really passing the Mickey test TBH.
            I just made a post in another thread about his pitty pat jabs. A trainer once told me to never throw multiple pitty pat jabs thru a fight because someone will time it and bad things will happen. He got a little too confident, but he also got caught in the 9th round and imo he was hurt pretty bad but Linares either wasn't aware of it or was too tired to do anything about it. That combo shook him up, but he has a great poker face. I saw he was hurt because he wasn't throwing any punches back and pressing forward to hide it. Tyson talked about that in his book. He talked about catching Pinklon Thomas with some shots and he stood right there. Tyson said he knew the guy was hurt but he hid it well so he just kept pouring it on anyway.

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            • boliodogs
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              That right hand was a great punch but Linares threw it, not Mikey.Loma was up quickly and went on to score the KO. Loma has a great straight left and he can drop right handed fighters with it. Right handers have no built in advantage over southpaws. They are just as vulnerable to a straight left as a southpaw is to a straight right.Look at most pound for pound top 10 best lists and Loma and Mikey will both be on it but Loma wlll be ranked higher than Mikey. This was Loma's first ever knockdown and Mikey has also been knocked down, If Loma fights Mikey at 135 I think Loma will win.

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              • boliodogs
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                Originally posted by larryxxx..
                Straight right, Left hook are the 2 shots that kill Southpaws
                Straight left and right hook are the two shots that southpaws kill right handed fighters with. Neither has any built in advantage over the other. The better fighter will win regardless of stance. In fact the southpaw may have a slight advantage since he fights right handed fighters more often than right handers fight southpaws.

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                • sore_back
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                  I honestly I think the main problem was he wasn't showing enough variety in attack so Linares was able to time him. Like Loma said after the fight "he knew about that shot" (obviously) but he just got careless.

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                  • animelive
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                    His movement is also something he should work a bit more on. It gets repetitive when he keeps moving to the right and his opponents can pick up his rhythm in the latter rounds if he is not careful. One thing I commend him for is he is always looking for a fight. He went on the inside and threw combos instead of going in and out the whole fight even though that is a perfectly fine way of winning.

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