loma is amazing no doubt....the one "but" i have

[soul_survivor]

Age? Number of fights? I say who cares.

The bigger issue is quality of opposition and types of championships won. Oscar, Leonard and pacquiao all fought better opposition to get those 3rd titles.

[animelive]

i never said it was an "advantage"...in fact i dont think anywhere i ever even implied that

im just saying...it was his choice.....he was confident in that he could face the level of comp right off the bat believing that his experience and skill would trump everything....

and i doubt he will be able to kick any of these "habits" by now....you usually are what you are at this time....few rare instances weve seen guys change things up and be successful

do you think if he turned pro at 22 he would be any different than he is now? i doubt it....he was just in the ring with a bigger guy that is pretty strong and tough....and he got a bit lazy and careless....although defensively he wasnt quite as on point as usual but i thought that was basically because linares was able to withstand his offense and still throw without being overwhelmed

Yeah, his training and dedication alone has taken him to the level he is at. He wasn't born with his skills and if required, he can change it. If he trains his physical attributes a bit more and ups that defense, I don't see anyone stopping him. You can rest assured that he will not be overconfident in his next fight and that will make a lot of difference.

[BillyBoxing]

i never said it was an "advantage"...in fact i dont think anywhere i ever even implied that

im just saying...it was his choice.....he was confident in that he could face the level of comp right off the bat believing that his experience and skill would trump everything....

and i doubt he will be able to kick any of these "habits" by now....you usually are what you are at this time....few rare instances weve seen guys change things up and be successful

do you think if he turned pro at 22 he would be any different than he is now? i doubt it....he was just in the ring with a bigger guy that is pretty strong and tough....and he got a bit lazy and careless....although defensively he wasnt quite as on point as usual but i thought that was basically because linares was able to withstand his offense and still throw without being overwhelmed

Look GGG turned pro late too after the long am career of 350 fights and waited 30+ fights to step up so....give Loma his full props.

[ruedboy]

loma may be a different animal...but not in the sense you are trying to make it in

given the chance yes loma would take the exact same route floyd did...and btw when floyd was a young buck in the game he wanted what he could get...he wanted shane way back when floyd was basically only known to the diehard boxing fan world and shane was a big name.....

floyds game changed when the opportunity arose and as he built his name up

if loma could go up and get big money fights and turn himself into the level of superstar floyd was...he would do it in a hearbeat and take the same route....loma just isnt capable of going that high and getting those kind of fights....

take a look at golovkin...go no further....

if he were like loma he wouldnt have cared about canelo and would have taken up ward on the opportunity to beat a truly great fighter at 168....but he waited it out and took less risky fights in order for the brinks truck that is canelo

loma would prob take the same route if there was a fight worth that kind of money and he had to move up to 147....he can take all the fights he wants now because the money is all basically the same and he knows hes better than pretty much all of these guy cept mikey

Everybody's got an opinion. Loma says it's not about the money, it's about legacy. I believe the guy, we'll see.

[Derranged]

I'm a fan and I'm not making too big of a deal of that record either. He had 300 more amateur fights than Floyd and nearly 160 more fights than Delahoya (I didn't realize DLH had so many fights in the amateurs until I just looked it up).

[Curt Henning]

Everybody's got an opinion. Loma says it's not about the money, it's about legacy. I believe the guy, we'll see.

alot of guys say that...then it changes

for loma it probably wont change because i dont think hes capable of going up high enough to make that kind of real money...the type golovkin got with canelo...or the type floyd made......i dont think loma can really go past mikey at 135....i shouldnt say that...i bet he could beat some guys at 140 but there isnt any money fights there....

loma will prob be stuck about where he is..making about what he is.....its more circumstance

given the chance loma would do the same things neccessary to secure a canelo type payday.....i mean...who knows...maybe a pac fight is still there for him

[Xoo]

Lomo FAILED the first time but was given a second chance shortly thereafter. That's not greatness, that is c.ockiness coupled with boxing corruption!

Yeah that was corruption the way Salido was allowed to low blow around a hundred times that fight.

[Curt Henning]

Look GGG turned pro late too after the long am career of 350 fights and waited 30+ fights to step up so....give Loma his full props.

what does that have to do with anything? alot of guys turn pro later...alot of EE guys....look at beterbiev, usyk...the cubans

i am giving loma full props...hes great...just think when they keep repeating that "record" thing its a bit ridiculous....like i said i realize its a selling point....but he really didnt do it any faster than floyd.....he did it in less pro fights....so when they say "Fastest" im not really buying it

[Curt Henning]

I'm a fan and I'm not making too big of a deal of that record either. He had 300 more amateur fights than Floyd and nearly 160 more fights than Delahoya (I didn't realize DLH had so many fights in the amateurs until I just looked it up).

yeah...its simply a choice IMO....i dont think it really makes his 3 division titles any more impressive that its less pro fights....hes been around....its not like he picked up boxing at age 20 or something....

nevertheless....he is still amazing and def p4p #1

[Ogecca MaMa]

I thought i covered that when I mentioned how it was different.

Yes, 12 round fights with 8oz gloves, no headgear and body shots allowed will be much more wear and tear than 3 round fights with 12oz gloves and protection.

meanwhile part time miners, cab drivers and gatekeepers can turn pro with no experience.

while you can't compete at european or world amateur lvl if you pop out of nowhere. lots of great amateurs dont turn pro either. in some cases AMs completely better than cans from Pros. more hungry, younger, faster etc.