My thoughts on Mayweather and PEDs

[travestyny]

So dehydration is only about weight loss, huh, ADP02?

Please tell me how both Bermane Stiverne and Junior Dos Santos, two heavyweights, were dehydrated for their fights

Both seemed to be dehydrated from something called Rhabdomyolysis.

Bermane Stiverne remains hospitalized after title bout with severe dehydration
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...063036223.html

Junior dos Santos: Fighting is worth the health risks because it's 'everything to me'
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--u...181312353.html

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/...s-treatments#1

https://www.healthline.com/health/rh...sis#treatments



Rhabdomyolysis Symptoms:

* dark red or brown, tea colored urine
*decreased urination/ low urine output
*Dehydration

My urine was dark. Extremely Dark.

Junior Dos Santos:

The morning after the bout, his urine was a very dark brown, the color of Guinness Stout beer.
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--u...181312353.html

Another Symptom: The “classic triad” of rhabdomyolysis symptoms are: muscle pain in the shoulders, thighs, or lower back

I had two hurt shoulders and two hurt hands

Rhabdomyolysis Causes

* pathological muscle exertion
*Extreme muscle strain, especially in someone who is an untrained athlete; this can happen in elite athletes, too, and it can be more dangerous if there is more muscle mass to break down.


What was the cause of your dehydration, Floyd?

Just working.

Rhabdomyolysis Treatment

* Treatment with intravenous (IV) fluids helps maintain urine production and prevent kidney failure.

* Getting enough fluid into your body is the first and most important treatment. They must start IV fluids quickly.

Immediately administer saline to patients with suspected rhabdomyolysis because early hydration is the key to ameliorate acute kidney injury.

https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/982711-treatment

Soooooo....nothing about weight loss. Symptoms are extremely dark urine and strained muscles, particularly in the shoulders. Causes are strenuous working out over a long period of time where your muscles can break down. Treatment used is IV fluid as early as it is suspected. Two professional heavyweights not cutting weight have exhibited this.


Can you disprove this, because though it might not be exactly what Mayweather had, this certainly shlts on everything you've been saying

Let me just cut to the chase. You can't disprove this. That simply means you have no case. All of your bullshlt has been shut down right now. It's over.

If you dare respond to this, all I want to know is if you can disprove it, and if you can....do it! Let's see you prove he didn't have this when it lines up so perfectly about what he said the causes were (not massive weight loss, but from working out), the symptoms (extremely dark urine, pain in shoulders), and the treatment (IV fluid).

Don't deflect. Prove he didn't have this. If you fail, leave here forever because no one will want to witness your incessant crying over the years to come while I clown you.

[travestyny]

Damn you made ADP02 go back into hiding with that last post.


Answered everyone of his moronic conspiracy theories with factual well thought out responses.


Yet ADP02 won't answer a simple question about NSAC doctors approving a dead man.


Deflecting as usual.



Just like that time he ducked my questions regarding how Bob Arum LIED about obtaining a TUE from USADA for TORADOL.



Adp02 is a coward.



Wouldn't even respond to links that he posted HIMSELF!

He's done. I can't wait to see how how DEFLECTS the above post. The irony of him calling everyone deflector is that it's simply and absolutely what he does repeatedly.

[ADP02]

You're not playing. You are dumb. Talking about Floyd should have told NSAC that he couldn't piss in a cup. You're a moron.



You already admit that they did an investigation. It clearly wouldn't have been enough for a butthurt bltch like you unless they rejected the TUE. Sorry. The doctors on the TUE Committee who reviewed the application know more about this than you, son.



So you're saying they never talked to their own DCO? How ****** can you be. Your desperation is pathetic!



False! Once again, they didn't approve it the same day. I've corrected you on this a million times but you're so butthurt that you keep saying it.

Second, THEY PUT OUT AN ENTIRE RESPONSE SAYING THAT THE DCO WAS PRESENT AND THEY TOLD NSAC AND PACQUIAO ABOUT THE TUE ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT. YOU'RE WRONG. Man up and accept your idol's loss already!



Was a witness and gave information to USADA you clown.



Was present with the DCO you idiot. Now prove they didn't speak to the Paramedic. Go!



Filled out the application you moron!



What about him/her? Did NSAC approve of a dehydrated dying man to fight? You still haven't answered!



Now you're saying USADA didn't talk to Floyd? Proof? You're a moron.



Was Ellerbe even there? You have some information we don't? You must have been there, huh?



Are you saying they had to interview him? This is what you call desperation!



Yea. The DCO you moron!



What???????? They had to take a video of him???????



Was Ian McCall drinking water you clown?



Did NSAC approve of a man dying from dehydration to fight? You ducked the fvvck out of this, DEFLECTOR!



I watched a video with Ian McCall inviting a brawl before he had to have 2 IV bags and nearly gall bladder surgery. You lose!



Yes, I do have the statement. Here you go you dumb bltch!

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...Tom-Hauser.pdf

Deflect that, f@g!



Sure. I can show you the proof.



That would mean that independent doctors on the TUE committee who didn't have his name on the application approved of the TUE according to the WADA ISTUE. You lose you dumb bltch



So Floyd should never be dehydrated....yet I showed you proof that he was in the past.




YOU LOSE!!!!



Did the TUEC approve of the application? Say it, dummy! They are independent doctors that know more about this than you, aren't they? SAY IT!



ACCORDING TO POOR ADP02 WHO WASN'T PRESENT. LMAOOOOOOO. YOU LOSE!



LMAOOOOOOO. JUST LIKE EVERYONE IS A CHEAT AND A LIAR WHO BEATS UP ON YOU AND YOUR IDOL. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS. YOU CLAIMED I CHEATED YOU IN YOUR DEBATE. WHY ADP02?

1. Didn't you accept that the judges weren't on my side when they confronted you? You said Billeau wasn't. You never had a problem with Zaroku. You accepted what Willy Wanker said.

That's 3 right there. So why did you go with this "Travestyny cheated" scenario? Oh, that's right. BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T ACCEPT YOUR LOSS LIKE A MAN SO YOU HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO CLAIM YOU WERE CHEATED. SOUND FAMILIAR????????




ANSWERED EVERY ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS! TRY TO DEFLECT THAT, BlTCH


Oh...and please explain why the hospital kept Stiverne a few extra days while you're at it. NSAC just letting these fighters go in dehydrated or what?






Explain this, doctor dumb dumb. A heavyweight becoming severely dehydrated????

The existence of this smashes all of your bullshlt. Good day, chump! LMAO!

No, my views is that Floyd couldn't have told the NSAC that because Floyd was NOT extremely deydrated. The NSAC doctor would have laughed it off. Drink some fluids and you are good to go Floyd.

But

As per Floyd's excuses,
Floyd should have told the NSAC that he was extremely dehydrated to the point that he cannot even urinate into a cup! That is a serious condition according to ..... Floyd/Ellerbe. It was so serious that he used a BANNED ILLEGAL IV!!!!

Also, if Floyd doesn't state his serious condition to the NSAC and also signs the pre-fight form stating that there are no medical issues, Floyd would get in trouble ....
well, OK, I'm sorry. Correction. If it was anyone but Floyd, they would have got into trouble. There would be an investigation and so on. LOL But it was Floyd. So the NSAC said "Floyd did nothing wrong"


Nope, the TUEC did what YOU WROTE. Reviewed the application!!! BINGO!!! See, you are not that dumb! LOL



Wake up. They approved it the next day after they received it from Floyd! The following day they provided the information to the NSAC and Manny's team.








Dumbo or DEFLECTO (take your pick), that was a statement that was made to protect themselves and Floyd. That was NOT an investigation!!!
AND that was NOT the official statement on FLoyd Dumbo or DEFLECTO . That statement was made in September 2015 not in May 2015.

Now go get me USADA's statement on May 2015 on Floyd ..... DEFLECTOR!!!!



DEFLECTO, go check out the official statement on Floyd.






Stiverne doesn't even need to make weight but yeah, you go 12 rounds, you can become deydrated!!! LOL

On top of that, he was getting punched in the face! His next fight he did worse! BUT what does this have to do with Floyd Mayweather? NOTHING!!!! The guy was NOT monitoring his nutrition at all.

Floyd had Dr Alex Ariza. I can provide you with plenty of interviews where Ariza says otherwise!!!! So thanks for helping me out.

Ariza on making weight

"Floyd walks around relatively close to weight all the time"

Ooops!

Ariza

"We used a lot of new scientific methods in recovery and I think that helped us." Ariza

Ooops!

When you start camp, you have a plan. You know where you should be at the end of every 6 or 7 days. So those last 6 to 7 days should be all about recovery and maintaining. .... We know from Thursday to Friday's weigh in it's ALL PLANNED OUT.

Ariza

Go check out my posts from a while back when you laughed at what I said and said how do I know. Well, I said similar to Ariza. The last week you are basically "recovery and maintaining"
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Game, set and match!!!! KABOOOM!!!!!!!





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[WesternChamp]

pantherz wildin' out again..

[ADP02]

So dehydration is only about weight loss, huh, ADP02?

Please tell me how both Bermane Stiverne and Junior Dos Santos, two heavyweights, were dehydrated for their fights

Both seemed to be dehydrated from something called Rhabdomyolysis.





https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/...s-treatments#1

https://www.healthline.com/health/rh...sis#treatments



Rhabdomyolysis Symptoms:

* dark red or brown, tea colored urine
*decreased urination/ low urine output
*Dehydration




Junior Dos Santos:



Another Symptom: The “classic triad” of rhabdomyolysis symptoms are: muscle pain in the shoulders, thighs, or lower back



Rhabdomyolysis Causes

* pathological muscle exertion
*Extreme muscle strain, especially in someone who is an untrained athlete; this can happen in elite athletes, too, and it can be more dangerous if there is more muscle mass to break down.


What was the cause of your dehydration, Floyd?


Rhabdomyolysis Treatment

* Treatment with intravenous (IV) fluids helps maintain urine production and prevent kidney failure.

* Getting enough fluid into your body is the first and most important treatment. They must start IV fluids quickly.





Soooooo....nothing about weight loss. Symptoms are extremely dark urine and strained muscles, particularly in the shoulders. Causes are strenuous working out over a long period of time where your muscles can break down. Treatment used is IV fluid as early as it is suspected. Two professional heavyweights not cutting weight have exhibited this.


Can you disprove this, because though it might not be exactly what Mayweather had, this certainly shlts on everything you've been saying

Let me just cut to the chase. You can't disprove this. That simply means you have no case. All of your bullshlt has been shut down right now. It's over.

If you dare respond to this, all I want to know is if you can disprove it, and if you can....do it! Let's see you prove he didn't have this when it lines up so perfectly about what he said the causes were (not massive weight loss, but from working out), the symptoms (extremely dark urine, pain in shoulders), and the treatment (IV fluid).

Don't deflect. Prove he didn't have this. If you fail, leave here forever because no one will want to witness your incessant crying over the years to come while I clown you.

What nonsense!

"As a result, dehydration may occur."
It is about muscle damage! Floyd didn't have that issue according to ..... FLoyd/Ellerbe!!!!

Is this what Floyd wrote in his pre-fight form? NO!
Is this what Floyd/Ellerbe stated that Floyd had? NO!

Dehydration: Floyd's weight hardly moved for a month!!! Dehydration means that you lost fluids. Floyd admits that he came in like usual and walks at that weight!!! Read below!!!


After getting an IV is your muscles feeling great so quickly that you can have an interview as the one provided by Floyd?
Did Floyd go to the hospital?

Dr Alex Ariza had Floyd drinking and drinking and drinking. Floyd did NOT require an ILLEGAL BANNED IV!!!!!

Like I said, game, match and set!!!!

I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...

I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, ....

" stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao

[ADP02]

Damn you made ADP02 go back into hiding with that last post.


Answered everyone of his moronic conspiracy theories with factual well thought out responses.


Yet ADP02 won't answer a simple question about NSAC doctors approving a dead man.


Deflecting as usual.



Just like that time he ducked my questions regarding how Bob Arum LIED about obtaining a TUE from USADA for TORADOL.



Adp02 is a coward.



Wouldn't even respond to links that he posted HIMSELF!

I responded to DEFLECTORs posts!


Lets see him come up with similar USADA statement on Floyd from May 2015.


Lets see him come back with more BS excuses that make no sense for Floyd!

Floyd already put out a statement, remember DEFLECTOR? What did Floyd say? LOL



AND YOU DUCK JUST LIKE the one they call DEFLECTOR!!!!

or should I say,
you DoNOTHIN!!!!




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[SUBZER0ED]

IMO, neither Floyd nor Pacquiao are above su****ion. The easiest indicator to spot is both men's sudden physical transformation into miniature body builders. But it's so long after the fact at this point, does it even matter anymore?

[travestyny]

What nonsense!

"As a result, dehydration may occur."
It is about muscle damage! Floyd didn't have that issue according to ..... FLoyd/Ellerbe!!!!

YESSS exactly!!! May occur. Did it happen to Stiverne? Did it happen to Dos Santos??? So you just admit that it may occur. Foot in mouth, huh? You just admit your defeat! ahahahahahahahha!

And YESS, HE DID MENTION MUSCLE DAMAGE, YOU LIAR!!!!!

"I had two hurt shoulders and two hurt hands."

Is this what Floyd wrote in his pre-fight form? NO!
Is this what Floyd/Ellerbe stated that Floyd had? NO!

LMAOOOOOO. How the **** would he know that before the weigh-in. Did Stiverne know it before the weigh-in. And I see you tried to say that Stiverne had it after the fight. I'm one step ahead of you, bum. Stiverne stated he didn't feel right even in the dressing room!

And now you need Ellerbe to say a word that he probably can't even pronounce for this to be it? LMAOOOOO. He's not a fvvcking doctor you desperate clown! What did they say was the cause? Working out!!!!! What causes rhabdomyolysis? Excessive, strenuous working out. Who works more than Floyd???? He was widely known as the boxer who works himself the most. YOU LOSE!

LAS VEGAS -- Bermane Stiverne said he knew something wasn't right with his body on Saturday before he stepped into the ring at the MGM Grand Garden to defend his WBC heavyweight title against Deontay Wilder.

Stiverne was unable to warm up properly and kept asking trainer Don House to hold the mitts for him. It turns out that his su****ion that something was incorrect was right on the money.

Stiverne was hospitalized for two nights at University Medical Center after dropping a unanimous decision to Wilder in a fight in which he was passive and didn't throw early enough punches. He was severely dehydrated and was diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis.

Dehydration: Floyd's weight hardly moved for a month!!! Dehydration means that you lost fluids. Floyd admits that he came in like usual and walks at that weight!!! Read below!!!

Don't want to hear about weight loss anymore Bermane Stiverne and Junior Dos Santos have wrecked your own argument. And it's pretty dumb for you to say that it is impossible for Mayweather to be dehydrated you fool. Already showed proof that he has been dehydrated in the past. You're getting stomped again.

After getting an IV is your muscles feeling great so quickly that you can have an interview as the one provided by Floyd?
Did Floyd go to the hospital?

How do you treat rhabdomyolysis? By administering an infusion of saline as soon as possible, right? Did he receive saline? Come on, ADP02. Disprove this! He didn't go to the hospital. He did get treated with an IV, which is what Stiverne had in the hospital. You're drowning here.

Dr Alex Ariza had Floyd drinking and drinking and drinking. Floyd did NOT require an ILLEGAL BANNED IV!!!!!

Once again, did you disprove what I told you to disprove, or did you DEFLECT. LMAOOOOOOOOO.
Disprove it, simpleton.

Like I said, game, match and set!!!!

LMAOOOOO. IT'S GAME, SET, MATCH YOU FOOL. You can't get anything right here, can you? And guess what. This is GAME, SET, MATCH! Because you can't disprove this!!!!! You completely deflected! Disprove it!!!!!!

He had symptoms of rhabdomyolysis. His urine was extremely dark. He had shoulder injuries. He need not have lost tons of weight. He was dehydrated and treated with an IV infusion of saline, which is exactly what happens when someone has rhabdomyolysis. The cause of it is strenuous working out. He stated that the reason for his dehydration was working out.

It's overrrrrrrr...unless of course you can disprove rhabdomyolysis without deflecting.

R.I.P.

[Thread Stealer]

Ehh, I would guess Floyd took PEDs just like the majority of the top guys in the sport. I don't like it, but it's just the way it is.

[Dosumpthin]

I responded to DEFLECTORs posts!


Lets see him come up with similar USADA statement on Floyd from May 2015.


Lets see him come back with more BS excuses that make no sense for Floyd!

Floyd already put out a statement, remember DEFLECTOR? What did Floyd say? LOL



AND YOU DUCK JUST LIKE the one they call DEFLECTOR!!!!

or should I say,
you DoNOTHIN!!!!




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What have I ducked?
Lol. FOH.


You are the definition of the deflector.


You won't even respond to questions pertaining to links that you posted.

Remember?

It was YOU who posted Bob Arum claiming to have received a TUE from USADA for Toradol.


Just admit Bob Arum LIED about receiving prior approval for TORADOL - remember when Bob publicly tried to blame NSAC for not allowing the shot?

Why the **** do you think NSAC countered with an investigation? Lol.

Because TEAM PAC ARE LIARS.

Yet you keep trying to push some unfair conspiracy claiming Floyd wasn't investigated like Manny.

FOH.

Lets try again.....don't deflect

1. Did you think TEAM PAC intentionally lying to NSAC about receiving "prior approval" for TORADOL indicates an attempt to avoid consequences or an attempt to cheat?

2. Do you think TEAM PACs intentional lying about "prior approval" of banned substance (celestone 24 hour ban) may have contributed to an investigation?




Don't deflect! You can do it!