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  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
    I'm basing it on logic. Neither are PPV fighters so that seems to be within reason.

    You said Whyte only wanted to fight Wilder for the payday but Wilder doesn't offer a payday as such. It would only be down to the British PPV market where that would be possible, otherwise there is no money in fighting Wilder. If all Whyte wanted was a payday, he would look to become a mandatory to Joshua. Now that WOULD be a payday. Whyte wouldn't be getting much more than he does now but he wants the WBC title. That's why he's going after Wilder.
    You’re merely conjecturing, there is no relevant evidence to base it on, so you can’t accurately estimate the PPV numbers.

    C’mon man he CLEARLY wants the payday, that’s why he’s even calling out David Haye😭😭😭
    Of course it would be down to the British PPV market but it would be Wilder and the HW title that would draw the interest. Whyte is not a major draw in the UK. Aside from AJ and maybe Haye/Bellew there’s no one else Whyte could fight that would sell on UK PPV. That’s why he’s so desperate to fight Wilder

    If he really wants the WBC title and not the money he’ll fight Ortiz and not Pulev. But I guarantee he won’t...

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    • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
      You’re merely conjecturing, there is no relevant evidence to base it on, so you can’t accurately estimate the PPV numbers.

      C’mon man he CLEARLY wants the payday, that’s why he’s even calling out David Haye😭😭😭
      Of course it would be down to the British PPV market but it would be Wilder and the HW title that would draw the interest. Whyte is not a major draw in the UK. Aside from AJ and maybe Haye/Bellew there’s no one else Whyte could fight that would sell on UK PPV. That’s why he’s so desperate to fight Wilder

      If he really wants the WBC title and not the money he’ll fight Ortiz and not Pulev. But I guarantee he won’t...
      You just admitted Whyte wasn't a draw. Not on PPV anyway. But neither is Wilder so that's why a gave a reasonable number for PPV buys.

      Whyte has no problem fighting Ortiz, but he wants a guarantee he gets a straight shot at Wilder and isn't left there for well over a year not getting the fight. With Whyte fighting Pulev, he gets to be IBF mandatory so he'll get his shot within 6 months. If you can't see why fighting Ortiz is a big problem, then I don't know what to say to you.

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      • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
        You just admitted Whyte wasn't a draw. Not on PPV anyway. But neither is Wilder so that's why a gave a reasonable number for PPV buys.

        Whyte has no problem fighting Ortiz, but he wants a guarantee he gets a straight shot at Wilder and isn't left there for well over a year not getting the fight. With Whyte fighting Pulev, he gets to be IBF mandatory so he'll get his shot within 6 months. If you can't see why fighting Ortiz is a big problem, then I don't know what to say to you.
        Whyte isn’t a draw, but a fight with Wilder for the WBC Heavyweight title would be a massive fight over here. That PROVES that Wilder is the draw in that fight. Which is exactly why Hearn/Sky are willing to pay so much to secure that fight. That’s my whole point... It’s a big payday for Whyte which is why he was so desperate for that fight.

        He gets a guarantee if he fights Ortiz, he becomes mandatory so, he’ll be GUARANTEED the Wilder shot within a year as long as the WBC comply to their own rules.
        I can see exactly why he’ll fight Pulev and it’s because it’s an easier and quicker route to a bigger payday. So he shouldn’t talking **** saying he’s so desperate to fight Wilder, when he has an opportunity to guarantee that shot but is choosing to go an alternative route.

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        • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
          Whyte isn’t a draw, but a fight with Wilder for the WBC Heavyweight title would be a massive fight over here. That PROVES that Wilder is the draw in that fight. Which is exactly why Hearn/Sky are willing to pay so much to secure that fight. That’s my whole point... It’s a big payday for Whyte which is why he was so desperate for that fight.

          He gets a guarantee if he fights Ortiz, he becomes mandatory so, he’ll be GUARANTEED the Wilder shot within a year as long as the WBC comply to their own rules.
          I can see exactly why he’ll fight Pulev and it’s because it’s an easier and quicker route to a bigger payday. So he shouldn’t talking **** saying he’s so desperate to fight Wilder, when he has an opportunity to guarantee that shot but is choosing to go an alternative route.
          That proves Wilder is the draw over here? No it doesn't. What are you basing that off?

          Gennady Golovkin wasn't a draw in the UK, but with him fighting Brook it was a fight that sold. It had to do with a Brit fighting for a world title, not because Gennady was some big draw or anything. Wilder is viewed as less than the Middleweight champ because he's just a title holder who fights bums. Wilder being a draw over here is just something that exists in your head.

          But then again, after reading a lot of your posts on anything associated with Hearn, you do like to see them in the negative. So i'll take what you have to say with a pinch of salt.

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          • Ortiz would dispose this average journeyman without much effort.

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            • Ortiz would humiliate Whyte and make him look like a ****** idiot.

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              • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
                Am very much convinced wilder will break your heart with the way you are going.
                I only pray you don't commit suicide.
                Lol.. ya right. That's some U.K shyte..

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                • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                  Whyte isn’t a draw, but a fight with Wilder for the WBC Heavyweight title would be a massive fight over here. That PROVES that Wilder is the draw in that fight. Which is exactly why Hearn/Sky are willing to pay so much to secure that fight. That’s my whole point... It’s a big payday for Whyte which is why he was so desperate for that fight.

                  He gets a guarantee if he fights Ortiz, he becomes mandatory so, he’ll be GUARANTEED the Wilder shot within a year as long as the WBC comply to their own rules.
                  I can see exactly why he’ll fight Pulev and it’s because it’s an easier and quicker route to a bigger payday. So he shouldn’t talking **** saying he’s so desperate to fight Wilder, when he has an opportunity to guarantee that shot but is choosing to go an alternative route.
                  No he wont dummy bc Breazeale is a FIRST mandatory fight for Wilder .


                  Then theres the Joshua FIGHTS or fight , so Whyte is looking at least 2 years bc the Ortiz fight hasnt even took place yet or announced .


                  Do you really think fights happen over night ?


                  Even if Whyte fought Ortiz in July and won , Joshua is going to take a HUGE time up and Wilder would still have to fight Breazeale first anyway wheather its before or after Joshua if he wins .


                  Obviously hes going to go after the Joshua fight and challenge Pulev if he wants a quicker title fight IF Wilder does not fight Joshua or not .

                  He thinks Joshua will defeat Wilder so fighting Ortiz is less important in the long run no matter what course the fights take but a Pulev win GUARANTEES Whyte a fast shot at Joshua not the other way around .


                  You're too much of a simpleton to figure this out and its been explained to you several times .

                  You're a teacher ? What do you teach , Special Ed ? Must be just go re read all the posts you posted here . lol......
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-16-2018, 03:18 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                    I'm basing it on logic. Neither are PPV fighters so that seems to be within reason.

                    You said Whyte only wanted to fight Wilder for the payday but Wilder doesn't offer a payday as such. It would only be down to the British PPV market where that would be possible, otherwise there is no money in fighting Wilder. If all Whyte wanted was a payday, he would look to become a mandatory to Joshua. Now that WOULD be a payday. Whyte wouldn't be getting much more than he does now but he wants the WBC title. That's why he's going after Wilder.
                    You have said it all brada. Nothing more to say.

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                    • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                      You’re merely conjecturing, there is no relevant evidence to base it on, so you can’t accurately estimate the PPV numbers.

                      C’mon man he CLEARLY wants the payday, that’s why he’s even calling out David Haye😭😭😭
                      Of course it would be down to the British PPV market but it would be Wilder and the HW title that would draw the interest. Whyte is not a major draw in the UK. Aside from AJ and maybe Haye/Bellew there’s no one else Whyte could fight that would sell on UK PPV. That’s why he’s so desperate to fight Wilder

                      If he really wants the WBC title and not the money he’ll fight Ortiz and not Pulev. But I guarantee he won’t...
                      why should he fight Ortiz with all the politics flying around... it's waste of time and energy, he will still not get to wilder after beating Ortiz, we all know that.

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