More impressive start to their career. Naoya Inoue or Lomachenko?

[Motorcity Cobra]

Whenever this topic comes up posters tend to treat Loma like we do guys that turned pro as teenagers. I don't think that is a fair comparison.

When they say he won his first title in only his 3 pro fight while Floyd was still fighting prospects I ask them would a 25 year old Floyd had lost to Salido.

It really is a ****** comparison

[Cheerios36]

When they say he won his first title in only his 3 pro fight while Floyd was still fighting prospects I ask them would a 25 year old Floyd had lost to Salido.

It really is a ****** comparison

Yeah, Mayweather the ducker...

Undefeated Champions beaten/faced in career:

Mayweather - 3 (age 24, 30, 36)
Naoya - 0 (age NONE)
Loma - 3 (age 26, 28, 29 and counting (hope Mikey is next)

Anyways, to the OP's question..

Title Fights

Naoya - 12
Loma - 11

Fights against fighters with 4 or more losses

Naoya - 7 (out of 15 fights, ouch)
Loma - 2

Fights against fighters with losing records

Naoya - 1
Loma - 0

Fights against fighters on a recognized P4P list (That I know, could be wrong)...

Naoya - 0
Loma - 2

Weeks listed as the P4P #1 (ESPN) - I know subjective, but does lead to the notion of a pretty good start to a career

Naoya - 0
Loma - many

Fights that many said was the best fight EVER on Paper including P4P great Roy Jones...

Naoya - 0
Loma - 1

So EASY easy answer is Loma imo. Both fighters are great, but Loma is on his way to be an ATG. Can't wait for Saturday!

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah, Mayweather the ducker...

Undefeated Champions beaten/faced in career:

Mayweather - 3 (age 24, 30, 36)
Naoya - 0 (age NONE)
Loma - 3 (age 26, 28, 29 and counting (hope Mikey is next)

Anyways, to the OP's question..

Title Fights

Naoya - 12
Loma - 11

Fights against fighters with 4 or more losses

Naoya - 7 (out of 15 fights, ouch)
Loma - 2

Fights against fighters on a recognized P4P list (That I know, could be wrong)...

Naoya - 0
Loma - 2

Weeks listed as the P4P #1 (ESPN) - I know subjective, but does lead to the notion of a pretty good start to a career

Naoya - 0
Loma - many

Fights that many said was the best fight EVER on Paper including P4P great Roy Jones...

Naoya - 0
Loma - 1

So EASY easy answer is Loma imo. Both fighters are great, but Loma is on his way to be an ATG. Can't wait for Saturday!

Do you think the age he started his career will affect his ATG status?

[Cheerios36]

Do you think the age he started his career will affect his ATG status?

Not imo. If he didn't have 2 gold medals and possibly the best amateur record of ALL TIME, then yes, but that makes up for the late start I think.

Plus with him setting records for becoming a champion and doing it in multiple weight classes, he is MORE than making up for lost time.

There are MANY fighters who had a late start to their pro career, but he is the ONLY one who has done or doing what he has done so far.

He needs to keep going as ATG's needs a lot more on the resume than he currently has, but he is on his way.

But MOST important to me, is that he is not running from anyone and is wanting to be an ATG. And right now, I dont see ANYONE else doing that sadly enough. That is what I think will make him an ATG, his willingness and drive to be great.

[4truth]

I picked Loma but to be fair, I don't know **** about 115 and under.

[The Big Dunn]

Not imo. If he didn't have 2 gold medals and possibly the best amateur record of ALL TIME, then yes, but that makes up for the late start I think.

Plus with him setting records for becoming a champion and doing it in multiple weight classes, he is MORE than making up for lost time.

There are MANY fighters who had a late start to their pro career, but he is the ONLY one who has done or doing what he has done so far.

He needs to keep going as ATG's needs a lot more on the resume than he currently has, but he is on his way.

But MOST important to me, is that he is not running from anyone and is wanting to be an ATG. And right now, I dont see ANYONE else doing that sadly enough. That is what I think will make him an ATG, his willingness and drive to be great.

I don't think his am record will be factored into HOF or ATG discussion.

I posted that if he fights everyone he could and wins that he could be an ATG. That said, he did start at 25 and got the "quasi pro" experience in the WBSS. That is why IMO it is unfair to treat him like he started as a teen.

I think every fighter has the drive to be great, but every fighter doesn't get all the fights he wants.

I look forward to see where he goes from this.

[Motorcity Cobra]

I picked Loma but to be fair, I don't know **** about 115 and under.

I didn't either until i called SRR a bum because he was fighting guys making their pro debut. Then somebody schooled me to him & I won big time in his firsr fight against Chocolatito.

[Madison Boxing]

who the **** has inoue beat?

[Blue54]

Loma Innoue hasn't beaten the 1 guy in his division in either weight class. Plus Loma is making fighters who can potentially be atg look like nothing.

[chrisJS]

Inoue is very impressive but let's be real here. Even tossing out their talent and skill level out of the window (Loma is far superior there) their resumes aren't even debatable. Loma's 5th and 6th best wins are arguably/probably stronger than Inoue's best wins (Hernandez and Nietes). Also for those insistent than an undefeated record is the be all and end all please consider Inoue's 0 wins against undefeated fighters compared to Lomachenko's 3 and Inoue's 2 titlists defeated to Loma's 6 and Inoue's opp has a combined record of 345-59-22 or a winning % of 81% whereas Loma has defeated a combined 311-18-13 or a winning % of 91%.

I think these are two of the three currently active fighters that I consider guaranteed to be remembered as great fighters (Crawford being the other) but Loma's streets ahead of him currently.