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  • Real King Kong
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    #71
    Originally posted by bigjavi973
    uuhhh you answered your own question
    except that's not an answer to...why is it unfair for 2 fighters in different divisions to meet in the middle? take all the hate/fanboy bs out of it.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Real King Kong
      except that's not an answer to...why is it unfair for 2 fighters in different divisions to meet in the middle? take all the hate/fanboy bs out of it.
      never said it wasn't.....

      but isn't ggg being a hypocrite by saying 164 lbs for andre ward and then turn around and say hell move up to full 168 lbs for chavez jr and carl froch?

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        #73
        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        never said it wasn't.....

        but isn't ggg being a hypocrite by saying 164 lbs for andre ward and then turn around and say hell move up to full 168 lbs for chavez jr and carl froch?
        No he's being realistic. Ward is a much better fighter than Chavez and better than Froch.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          when ward contacted k2 about a fight at 168 he had just fought paul smith at 175....ward weighed in at 171 in order to keep himself between 168-175...he even allowed smith to weigh in over 175.....ward was angling for a golovkin fight...but EVERYONE knew that if golovkin didnt want to fight ward was going to 175...including k2....thats why the 164 was a surefire way to make sure ward walked and went to 175..which he did and beat a top 5 p4p twice!

          lil g still getting draws with guys coming up in weight!
          Quoted for truth...

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            #75
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            No he's being realistic. Ward is a much better fighter than Chavez and better than Froch.
            so you are saying that ggg needed to handicap ward in order to fight him? Cuz he's better than froch and chavez jr?




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              #76
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              when ward contacted k2 about a fight at 168 he had just fought paul smith at 175....ward weighed in at 171 in order to keep himself between 168-175...he even allowed smith to weigh in over 175.....ward was angling for a golovkin fight...but EVERYONE knew that if golovkin didnt want to fight ward was going to 175...including k2....thats why the 164 was a surefire way to make sure ward walked and went to 175..which he did and beat a top 5 p4p twice!

              lil g still getting draws with guys coming up in weight!
              this right here

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                #77
                Originally posted by TonyGe
                No he's being realistic. Ward is a much better fighter than Chavez and better than Froch.
                i love this excuse...its almost as good as all the other ones around...the many others

                "ward too good...he better than froch and chavez so naturally my hero lil g didnt want a challenge"

                imagine ward saying "hey kovalev meet me at 171"...imagine having to listening to all these whiney *****es out here

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973
                  never said it wasn't.....

                  but isn't ggg being a hypocrite by saying 164 lbs for andre ward and then turn around and say hell move up to full 168 lbs for chavez jr and carl froch?
                  in a sense yes...but it would also have been a higher risk fight with more on the table. let's not act like no other fighters have ever taken different positions negotiating with different fighters.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    i love this excuse...its almost as good as all the other ones around...the many others

                    "ward too good...he better than froch and chavez so naturally my hero lil g didnt want a challenge"

                    imagine ward saying "hey kovalev meet me at 171"...imagine having to listening to all these whiney *****es out here
                    if ward planned on staying at 168, then what would have been wrong with facing kovalev at a cw? so, why did Floyd fight cotto at 154 and canelo at 152 if different fights didn't call for different negotiating positions? they tried to make canelo come all the way down to 147 at first...why not just take the fight at 154?

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Real King Kong
                      if ward planned on staying at 168, then what would have been wrong with facing kovalev at a cw? so, why did Floyd fight cotto at 154 and canelo at 152 if different fights didn't call for different negotiating positions? they tried to make canelo come all the way down to 147 at first...why not just take the fight at 154?
                      if memory serves me correct didnt canelo actually suggest the 152 first? i think he might have and floyd called him out on it and made him stick to his word.....canelo said he'd do it to get the fight

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