Why are people not keen for Jacobs vs Charlo match?

[bluebeam]

Actually wasn't discussing Golovkin but since you brought it up. Charlo needs credibility in general. If he wants to get in there with the Champ of the division he needs to prove he can hang with him. Jacobs would provide that assurance.

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charlo is his mandatory
dereavychencko is his mandatory

ggg gotta fight or vacate.

man up or be remembered as a cherry picker

[OnePunch]

Has nothing to do with content. Has to do with realistic. Jacobs vs. Charlo isn't going to happen. It makes absolutely no sense for it to happen.

So if a fight makes no sense and has no chance of happening, what's the point of obsessing over it?

One is a Showtime fighter. One is an HBO fighter. One is trying to get the WBC belt. One is trying to get the WBA belt.

Both have guaranteed title shots. Fighting each other right now is a completely idiotic business move.

maybe....maybe not. We all know that Mauricio only enforces mandos if the challenger's last name ends in a "Z" or an "S". Charlo doesnt fit that description, so he might be sitting awhile.

And Medoza and the WBA are even worse. They create belts out of thin air to help champions avoid a tough mando (Sturm). I wouldnt be expecting them to be calling for purse bids or anything anytime soon lol

So although "technically" Charlo and Jacobs are in line for a title shot, who knows when those shots might actually come? 2019? 2020? How long should they tread water?

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maybe....maybe not. We all know that Mauricio only enforces mandos if the challenger's last name ends in a "Z" or an "S". Charlo doesnt fit that description, so he might be sitting awhile.

Canelo was the biggest star in the sport, and Mexican, and the WBC still enforced the rights of interim champion Golovkin, who was not Mexican.

If Charlo doesn't lose in the next 12 months, I'd be shocked if he wasn't upgraded to full champion if he doesn't get his title shot.

And Medoza and the WBA are even worse. They create belts out of thin air to help champions avoid a tough mando (Sturm). I wouldnt be expecting them to be calling for purse bids or anything anytime soon lol

Yes Jacobs probably would have to wait longer than Charlo for someone to be stripped. That is true.

So although "technically" Charlo and Jacobs are in line for a title shot, who knows when those shots might actually come? 2019? 2020? How long should they tread water?

Charlo would likely have to wait until 2019, Jacobs until 2020. Very true.

But the waits would not be endless as Haymon & Hearn are the most powerful guys in boxing right now and both have a ton of sway with the WBC and WBA.

[OnePunch]

Canelo was the biggest star in the sport, and Mexican, and the WBC still enforced the rights of interim champion Golovkin, who was not Mexican.

Golovkin beat Rubio for the interim title in 2014 but didnt get the canelo fight until 2017. Thats THREE FRIGGIN YEARS before he got the Canelo fight. And even still it was Canelo who vacated. Mauricio did not strip him, and who knows if he would have, despite all his blustering.

Edit: and of course I know the timeline with Martinez, Cotto, Canelo, and all the step aside deals. Thats not my point. My point is that even after 3 years it STILL was not a certainty that Mauricio would have stripped Canelo had he not vacated

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Golovkin beat Rubio for the interim title in 2014 but didnt get the canelo fight until 2017. Thats THREE FRIGGIN YEARS before he got the Canelo fight. And even still it was Canelo who vacated. Mauricio did not strip him, and who knows if he would have, despite all his blustering.

Edit: and of course I know the timeline with Martinez, Cotto, Canelo, and all the step aside deals. Thats not my point. My point is that even after 3 years it STILL was not a certainty that Mauricio would have stripped Canelo had he not vacated

Canelo vacated for the same reason he "voluntarily withdrew" from the GGG rematch.

In the final step aside deal, it was already in writing from all parties, including Canelo, that he would be stripped if he didn't fight Golovkin. So the WBC didn't need to "decide" to strip him, it was already all in writing in advance and all parties agreed to it. Canelo just "vacated" to save face and try to spin the story that the WBC was being unfair in some way.

[OnePunch]

Canelo vacated for the same reason he "voluntarily withdrew" from the GGG rematch.

In the final step aside deal, it was already in writing from all parties, including Canelo, that he would be stripped if he didn't fight Golovkin. So the WBC didn't need to "decide" to strip him, it was already all in writing in advance and all parties agreed to it. Canelo just "vacated" to save face and try to spin the story that the WBC was being unfair in some way.

Youre missing my point. You assume that Mauricio would have actually went ahead with stripping Canelo. I on the other hand make no such assumption, regardless of what agreements might have been signed.

All Mauricio would have had to do is have one of their BS committee meetings and take a vote and change the rules for "the good of the sport" or whatever garbage justification they give themselves. His word means nothing. Actually it means less than nothing.

I mean, look at how low he has sunk. Canelo basically spit in his face, and yet Mauricio goes around, rattling a tin cup, slobbering all over Canelo like a star struck teenage fan girl. Its embarrassing.......

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Youre missing my point. You assume that Mauricio would have actually went ahead with stripping Canelo. I on the other hand make no such assumption, regardless of what agreements might have been signed.

Oh come on dude. It was a legally binding contract signed by the WBC, Canelo and Golovkin. With very specific language and no wiggle room. If Canelo had any chance of keeping the title without fighting Golovkin, he wouldn't have vacated.

All Mauricio would have had to do is have one of their BS committee meetings and take a vote and change the rules for "the good of the sport" or whatever garbage justification they give themselves. His word means nothing. Actually it means less than nothing.......

No no no. There's nothing in the WBC bylaws that would have allowd that. Golovkin getting elevated if Canelo didn't sign to fight was automatic. Agreed in advance before Canelo's previous fight. There's absolutely no way the WBC could have gotten away with reneging on that signed agreement. Would have bankrupted the WBC worse than Roccigiani.

[rickJen]

It's disappointing.
Both Charlo and Jacobs have had their 2 respective tuneups.
Seems the fight is not likely to happen any time soon.
Question is who are they going to fight next?

[Just looking]

Good match, would love to see it