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  • Shadoww702
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    #11
    Originally posted by Lester Tutor
    the *****s will stick together. Let's wait on BJS's hyping Fury upon his return or performance...cause Breadman is endorsing what BJS thinks!
    Doesnt he know Fury his bestie was suspended for drugs???

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    • Shadoww702
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      "I find it very strange that the WBC president has been blindly supportive of Canelo being clean despite Canleo not being enrolled into a program he requires his champions to be enrolled in. It also makes me wonder why he refused to fight for the WBC title last year. I would like to research when the WBC made these mandates with regards to being tested, if it was before or after Canelo fought Cotto."

      I find it very strange too, being that Canelo dumped the WBC belt! It's also strange how the "Green Belt" is not as coveted as it use to be, since the testing program began! There's quite a few top fighters @ 126, that don't seem to be in a rush to fight GRJ! Is it because of his skill, or is it the testing? Loma came on the scene and went right at GRJ. There's quite a few PBC guys who have yet to even mention his name! Why?
      $$$$ 3% of over 20 million is much better than 3% of around $1 million...

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      • Jab jab boom
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        #13
        That last email is very accurate and thorough. It proves that passing the hair test isn't a definitive way to prove Canelo wasn't using intentionally. But when it comes to Canelo fans, most aren't a rational bunch and they believe what they want because they follow him blindly. It's almost like a cult religion where no matter what he does, they'll still find reasons to defend him.

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        • Lester Tutor
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          #14
          Originally posted by Shadoww702
          Doesnt he know Fury his bestie was suspended for drugs???
          the questions are designed...

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          • Bronx2245
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            #15
            Originally posted by Shadoww702
            $$$$ 3% of over 20 million is much better than 3% of around $1 million...
            I understand that Canelo is the cash cow, so I can see the WBC sucking him off. However, if Canelo is not enrolled, then the WBC is looking suspect, and that damages the credibility of the whole program! The program is also suspect if the fighters that are enrolled, are not tested regularly! After Oscar, there was Mayweather. After Mayweather, there was Canelo. After Canelo, there will be someone else. The WBC should be thinking LONG-TERM! Don't sacrifice tomorrow for today!

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            • TonyGe
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              #16
              Originally posted by Lester Tutor
              ''VADA'' is oxymoronic. ''Voluntary'' ... lol

              if VADA is non-profit, then she and her board members could've easily made a different brand exclusive to JUST boxing and labeled it ''Obligatory'' regardless of top 15 rankings and all fighters tested 365 and at least 1 time a week.

              There are no designer drugs that could dodge weekly testing as the body becomes saturated with any toxicity. Even boxers trying to clean themselves every week would change their body chemistry and result with no benefits. Microdosing every week... man the WADA labs, including the biological passport, could EASILY find any inconsistencies throughout a year.

              But of course, boxing fans don't admit that EVERY boxer can easily be questioned. Especially those performing great at old age with great ''STAMINA''... hence, ''Performing enhancing'' not ''performance depriving''
              Are you suggedting that guys like Hopkins and Foreman were on something? According to you fighters that perform well at an advanced age are likely to be cheating. Hopkins and Foreman are famous for the length of their careers. That's how I interpret your post. I think you owe these guys an apology.

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              • TonyGe
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                #17
                Any lawyers here? This is very hypothetical. Could the WBC be sued by a fighter for not enforcing it's own rules on their opponent?

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                • Lester Tutor
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TonyGe
                  Are you suggedting that guys like Hopkins and Foreman were on something? According to you fighters that perform well at an advanced age are likely to be cheating. Hopkins and Foreman are famous for the length of their careers. That's how I interpret your post. I think you owe these guys an apology.
                  Everybody knows the discrepancy at Heavyweight. There's inconsistent longetivity at Heavy. Foreman is a heavy handed ATG. His blocking technique at the pocket is nothing impressive as current flashy defense. Shıt man, even Wilder pounces crazy in the ring to avoid shots. Foreman would just cross high guard and take everything making his offensive opponent tire out. His jab and weight, even slow, is like a fast cross.. That's how Moorer got served. Foreman didn't perform like an Ortiz or those PED bros in Klitschkos.

                  Hopkins, his KO's and hurt diminished. Even his drop for Shumenov didn't have pop as Klitschko's to Joshua's chin. Bhop used defense to stroll around the ring, cautious, as in the Kovalev fight..

                  and lastly, it's an era of Advanced Drug Testing, not no Vinny Paz being roided up on fight night coming off broken bones before...with HBO knowing he would still get blasted out by RJJ, so they let him..and I'm sure RJJ knew about it too

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                  • Lester Tutor
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TonyGe
                    Any lawyers here? This is very hypothetical. Could the WBC be sued by a fighter for not enforcing it's own rules on their opponent?
                    Yeah, like Canelo suing the WBC for placing him in the rankings when he wasn't even fighting for it, which means, an opponent can't do anything about if they're not fighting for the WBC strap

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                      That last email is very accurate and thorough. It proves that passing the hair test isn't a definitive way to prove Canelo wasn't using intentionally. But when it comes to Canelo fans, most aren't a rational bunch and they believe what they want because they follow him blindly. It's almost like a cult religion where no matter what he does, they'll still find reasons to defend him.
                      A lot of Floyd fans are now Canelo fans so yeah I agree.

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