Comments Thread For: Tony Bellew Lighter Than David Haye At Rematch Weigh-In

[Boxing Goat]

I agree. It's a big fight in the UK. I just can't see haye winning. I kinda wanna see more of huey. Could huey beat stervine ? Or Ortiz?

The thing about Haye is that he has a good right hand and Cunningham caught Fury bad in their fight with an overhand right that Haye would have probably put him to sleep with. I can't stop thinking about that shot when I think of Fury vs. big punchers with speed. That said, I think Fury is the favorite for a reason. And I think Huey is way untested at the moment. Ruiz Jr. seems good but he's untested as well. I think I need to see him more before I think he would even survive 6 rounds with Ortiz. Stiverne is shot to sh@t so I don't even care to talk about him.

[Robbie Barrett]

I've read that fat takes up more space than muscle because it's not as dense. These pics say that's bull****. They're near enough the same size in weight but Haye looks twice as big.

[BodiesInFlight]

I think Haye woefully underestimated Bellew the last fight plus he blew out his Achilles tendon. If Haye can keep from some catastrophic injury I think he will stop Bellew. I think Haye probably would have won a sloppy decision in the last fight had he not been injured.

FYI I was rooting for Bellew the last fight but his incessant blather mouth has turned me off.

He's always been like that, nothing new there.

[IlikeBikeTython]

Fury got the weight , reach, height and maybe speed advantage. I'll watch it tho.

You had me up to the speed advantage part. Fury moves well “for a guy his size”, but he’s certainly not faster than an athletic smaller HW like Haye. Haye would have to be in his late 40s for Fury to be quicker than him. And this is assuming Fury is still the same fighter he was before he took his long sabbatical to eat Cheetos and snort coke for a couple years.

[steeve steel]

Two annoying British pouiks... If there is a god, he will rid us of both by double KO!

[cameltoe]

Two annoying British pouiks... If there is a god, he will rid us of both by double KO!

**** ya then, you xenophobic helmet

[Citizen Koba]

Tony Bellew looks unfit and unprepared for this fight. I see a brutal knockout.

Bellew looks unfit and unprepared for every fight. Don't let it fool ya, dude can fight.

[stellen]

Tony will always have the first fight.................as long as he gets back home to his kids....................it was always about the money................................the kids futures are secured.......................he will sit down with the mrs and she will tell him if its time to retire...................blah blah blah.
(Tony's Post-Fight Interview)

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Tony Bellew and David Haye hit the scales on Friday ahead of their rematch this weekend. The pair meet in a return showdown on Saturday, 14 months after their first outing. Bellew stopped Haye in the penultimate of 12 rounds last March, exclusively live on Sky Sports Box Office.
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Haye still built like a brick house

[McNulty]

Tell that to Roy Jones, Paul Williams, Hasim Rahman, Joe Frazier, Mickey Ward... I could go on.

Please do because your list is going to be short and mine will be much much longer.

One thing you have to take into complete consideration is you just can't use rematches to prove a point, you have to look at the entire pool of information which is the entire record of opposition. When there are close fights, there are often rematches but if you look at most fighters records you won't see many if any rematches there. Paul Williams had 1 rematch in 43 fights.

When Floyd Mayweather fought Jesus Chavez (1-13-1) at 130 and knocked him out in 5, do you think Floyd would have done better in a rematch or not? These type of fights are a massive percentage of a fighters career. Look at Wilder, out of 40 wins there are 5 recognizable names. Do you think those 35 bums are going to do better the next time around?

Regarding your list:

1. Tarver got lucky, even Manny Steward said that verbatim during a night of fights he was hosting and remarked at how Tarvers eyes were closed. Jones had never legit lost, this was an anomally as I'm sure you will agree, if you plan on being reasonable that is.
   
2. Martinez got lucky too and if you know anything about Paul Williams, he didn't have much training. I think he had 17 Am's fights. He was learning on the job alot.
   
3. Frazier got lucky beating Ali. We saw what happened and proves my case, Frazier lost in 2 and 3 proving once Ali beat him it was easier the second time around.
   
4. Rahman, dude why are you picking guys that landed lucky punches? That doesn't help you at all. You're bringing up anomalies and I'm talking big leagues.
   
5. Mickey Ward, dude come on lmao. O' so bviously Gatti was completely shot to ribbons.

Basically what you did to prove your case is bring up guys that landed lucky punches which probably is a factor of 0.03% compared to mine.

Even at the top levels my case stands true quite a bit.

Floyd Mayweather vs Marcos Maidana 1
116-112 | 117-111 | 114-114 | TOTAL: 347 vs 337

Floyd Mayweather vs Marcos Maidana 2
[116-111 | 116-111 | 115-112 | TOTAL: 347 vs 334

Deontay Wilder vs Bermane Stiverne 1
118-109 | 119-108 | 120-107 | TOTAL: 357 vs 324

Deontay Wilder vs Bermane Stiverne 2
KO1

I used to fight in the Am's (novice class) and fought the same guy twice more than 1x and it was legit easier the second time around. The only reason we fought was there wasn't enough people in our class and we fought specials (off the books) to stay busy. My trainer passed this on to me that they would be easier the second time around and he was right. In retrospect, I can't remember a single time he wasn't.