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  • Lester Tutor
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    #101
    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
    Fuck it, man. You ain't interested in looking at the research are ya? Or at taking WADAs word for it. If you want to believe Conte despite the fact that the information he's claiming simply doesn't exist that's on you. I'm done. If anyone wants any further info I'm open to discussion, but honestly I'm thinking you don't care about the truth of this situation.

    No one can prove at this stage that Canelo deliberately used Clenbuterol as a PED but neither is it possible to establish his innocence, as you seem insistent on doing for some reason.
    lol. You're better off giving me props. I got your back bruh. Don't defend that piece of shıt little G. He ducked himself out of the fight, but to in all fairness, it's obvious he was and is still coached on what to say. We know this because Golovkin didn't care about Canelo's Clen case when first said, then he did a 180 a week later with the same consistent ESPN reporters he said utterly retaaarded shıt like ''doctors sent me photos...I saw pills...'''

    as if Lil'G in the face off or Loeffler or Abel didn't see anything from Canelo in clear sight yet cried months later because photoshop is a blessing...

    Let's be honest, Gennady missed so much in the first fight, they were begging for Canelo to stand still and trade for the rematch. This was Lil'G and Abel crying to Julio Cesar Chavez in numerous ESPN interviews or to reporters that if ''Canelo stands still'' ... in other words, Abel and Lil'G couldn't guarantee a victory scenario if Canelo decided to do it again...

    which means they'd have nothing to worry about since Adelaide Byrd isn't present.

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    • Bjl12
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      #102
      Originally posted by 187 Proof
      Oh, so the NSAC, Vada, WBC, the organization that did the hair test, Victor Conte, and countless others are all involved in some conspiracy to allow Canelo to dope, huh?

      This dumb motherf**ker really thinks that many people are willing to risk their livelihoods and reputations to protect someone as insignificant as a boxer?

      Little G and his white supremacist fans just can't seem to accept the possibility that Canelo really did eat tainted meat and even though it was an accident he is still getting suspended 6 months for it.
      DAMN. This dude went IN.

      Green K brother

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      • bigjavi973
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        #103
        I like the new excuses....

        he gave a hair sample so he doesnt have to do random testing







        now why do I see something wrong there?

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        • BoZz
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          #104
          No, cherry picking frauds scared of moving up in weight are the biggest problem.

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          • Theosis26
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            #105
            3g says he wants the canelo rematch but yet he's still accusing him. If I'm 3g I take the Wilder route by keeping quiet & destroy him in the ring, like how he did Ortiz. I ain't saying he's wrong but canelo is a diva & all that **** talking might just make him go in another direction for his comeback

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            • Citizen Koba
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              #106
              Originally posted by Lester Tutor
              lol. You're better off giving me props. I got your back bruh. Don't defend that piece of shıt little G. He ducked himself out of the fight, but to in all fairness, it's obvious he was and is still coached on what to say. We know this because Golovkin didn't care about Canelo's Clen case when first said, then he did a 180 a week later with the same consistent ESPN reporters he said utterly retaaarded shıt like ''doctors sent me photos...I saw pills...'''

              as if Lil'G in the face off or Loeffler or Abel didn't see anything from Canelo in clear sight yet cried months later because photoshop is a blessing...

              Let's be honest, Gennady missed so much in the first fight, they were begging for Canelo to stand still and trade for the rematch. This was Lil'G and Abel crying to Julio Cesar Chavez in numerous ESPN interviews or to reporters that if ''Canelo stands still'' ... in other words, Abel and Lil'G couldn't guarantee a victory scenario if Canelo decided to do it again...

              which means they'd have nothing to worry about since Adelaide Byrd isn't present.
              OK man, whatever. I ain't quite sure why you think my post and my interest in the science behind PED testing has anything to do with GGG, but uh. Yeah. Speaking of props I ain't interested in being one in your ongoing campaign to discredit Golovkin, but neither do I care much either. I just think it's a bit silly.

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #107
                Originally posted by bigdunny1
                So we shouldn't take the word of WADA or the experts in this field of drug testing? LOL The urine test is inconclusive it could of also been from PED use but based on the levels so low consistent with meat contamination and Canelo being from Mexico (a country flagged with these problems in their meat). Every expert states that hair test is MUCH better at determining intent to cheat because meat is such low trace amount where if you are cheating you are putting so much higher in your body and it stays in your hair. If you cheating will have high trace amounts in your hair for up to 6 months if you simply ate meat you will either have little or NO TRACE in your hair. Canelo's hair test came back negative nothing. So we have 2 tests both all lead to canelo more likely eating meat (urine levels consistent with meat), hair no trace at all (consistent with meat). Hair tests have existed for a long time WADA doesn't force hair tests today not because of the science but because it costs more money. Based on the science of BOTH drug tests it's extremely unlikley that Canelo was on PEDs. All the evidence and science points to it being meat contamination. Sanchez himself said if canelo is innocent then why won't he take the hair test? He did and now he himself refuses to acknowledge the science and results and he once had his tongue up Victor Conte's azzz quoting him now Victor Conte don't know what he is talking about? This is all GGG fans have left to flip flop to keep saying Canelo was cheating even though the evidence states the opposite. Time to discredit Victor Conte lol
                Sure. Show me this long list of experts and the evidence they cite and we'll go from there. At least that would be making some progress even if you don't want to acknowledge WADA saying this:

                https://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...taminated-meat

                The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) concede that they currently have no scientific means to distinguish whether failed drug tests for clenbuterol have resulted from contaminated meat or genuine doping.
                "We are running some studies to try to distinguish but we don't have a magic solution today," Rabin told insidethegames here at the WADA Symposium.
                And again. If you're interested in discussing the actual science behind all of this instead of just campaigning to clear Canelo's name then I'm more than happy to discuss the available evidence. We can go through it all, cos there's bits even I'm not quite clear on and maybe it'll turn out that I've drawn the wrong conclusion.. open invitation.

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                • Lester Tutor
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                  OK man, whatever. I ain't quite sure why you think my post and my interest in the science behind PED testing has anything to do with GGG, but uh. Yeah. Speaking of props I ain't interested in being one in your ongoing campaign to discredit Golovkin, but neither do I care much either. I just think it's a bit silly.
                  Yes because boxing isn't a commercial like the dollar store or Walmart signs.

                  For any crew in boxing saying 154-168 is was easy and making or showing inconsistencies as years progress, along with a guy like Loeffler or Abel with his crony shill cheerleaders like Pugmire, Kim, and Fischer or Fat Dan...

                  yup, best believe, I'll keep making fun of those ******. I mean, Fury can have a mouth and back it up, perhaps lose, etc... but the whole hypejob in LiL'G that was no different in Rousey or McGregor is apparent for lessons learned.

                  Mayweather was smart enough to capitalize on these particular hypes and gain a significant profit off of it. McGregor was draining at 145 as was his initial name to fame yet that bigass swole dude walks around 190. So how could McGregor fight with such a diminished weight? Easily, them UFC IV's ... and then USADA hopping in sooner to take new control..

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Lester Tutor
                    Yes because boxing isn't a commercial like the dollar store or Walmart signs.

                    For any crew in boxing saying 154-168 is was easy and making or showing inconsistencies as years progress, along with a guy like Loeffler or Abel with his crony shill cheerleaders like Pugmire, Kim, and Fischer or Fat Dan...

                    yup, best believe, I'll keep making fun of those ******. I mean, Fury can have a mouth and back it up, perhaps lose, etc... but the whole hypejob in LiL'G that was no different in Rousey or McGregor is apparent for lessons learned.

                    Mayweather was smart enough to capitalize on these particular hypes and gain a significant profit off of it. McGregor was draining at 145 as was his initial name to fame yet that bigass swole dude walks around 190. So how could McGregor fight with such a diminished weight? Easily, them UFC IV's ... and then USADA hopping in sooner to take new control..
                    Ahh ... that's the Turkish I remember!

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                    • otrocubiche
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                      #110
                      “If he wants to prove that he is a clean fighter, like Oscar and some organizations keep talking about what a clean fighter he is, then he needs to prove it to the public. And I think he needs this fight to prove that, so that the next fight he’s free of any questions.”

                      clear as water

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